From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/36456 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Suppressing message-id generation locally Date: 26 May 2001 05:55:12 -0700 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035172037 8689 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:47:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:47:17 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 1183 invoked by alias); 26 May 2001 12:55:16 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 1178 invoked from network); 26 May 2001 12:55:16 -0000 Original-Received: from mail.networkone.net (209.144.112.246) by gnus.org with SMTP; 26 May 2001 12:55:16 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 30311 invoked from network); 26 May 2001 12:55:14 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO reader.local.lan) (209.144.117.151) by mail.networkone.net with SMTP; 26 May 2001 12:55:14 -0000 Original-Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.local.lan (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f4QCtCU27646; Sat, 26 May 2001 05:55:12 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: reader.local.lan: reader set sender to reader@newsguy.com using -f Original-To: ding@gnus.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) Emacs/20.7 Original-Lines: 42 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:36456 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:36456 Following along with the sender header discussion I decided I should disable message-id generation on my end and let the posting host for news or smtp (outgoing) for mail set it. Kai suggested: (setq message-required-news-headers (delete 'Message-ID message-required-news-headers)) Which does the job for news, but what about mail? I thought maybe a similar thing like this: (setq message-required-mail-headers (delete 'Message-ID message-required-mail-headers)) Which does stop gnus from generating the id but it still gets generated locally (and incorrectly) like below: <200105261236.f4QCaU927207@reader.local.lan> So how to proceed, if one wanted to disable message-id at the local MTA level so that my local MTA (sendmail-8.11.2-14) passes the message to outgoing mail machine at ISP (where I have no say in config) with out a message-id, so that regardless of MUA the message id would get generated at the outgoing smtp machine. I'd like the mail handling software to deal with this, without my having to force a correct message-id. But not so clear how to do that. I'm behind my own firewall, on a locally named/addressed machine in 192.168 range with no (internet recognized) FQDN. My firewall, a NETGEAR FR314 DSL/router holds my static IP address but does not process mail, beyond passing it through. I can think of several ways to kludge this so it comes out right but wanted to follow `Rats' advice and let the mail handling software and network settings deal with it, and get it right.