From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/43953 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: [inn] How to have more than one server Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:28:13 -0800 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87bsdkw8yc.fsf@anchor.jibsheet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1016739043 27644 127.0.0.1 (21 Mar 2002 19:30:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 19:30:43 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16o8Gp-0007Bl-00 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 20:30:43 +0100 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16o8Fj-0005Ru-00; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 13:29:35 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 21 Mar 2002 13:29:42 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA08770 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 13:29:28 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 4230 invoked by alias); 21 Mar 2002 19:28:48 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 4225 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2002 19:28:48 -0000 Original-Received: from www.dslextreme.com (HELO mail.dslextreme.com) (66.51.205.200) by gnus.org with SMTP; 21 Mar 2002 19:28:48 -0000 Original-Received: from reader.local.lan (adsl-66.51.210.228.dslextreme.com [66.51.210.228]) by mail.dslextreme.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2LJTDCj008279 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:29:18 -0800 Original-Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.local.lan (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2LJSDD32400; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:28:13 -0800 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Russ Allbery's message of "Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:14:57 -0800") Original-Lines: 51 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) Emacs/21.1.80 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:43953 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:43953 Russ Allbery writes: > Harry Putnam writes: > >> Thanks for clearing that up. The documentation with inn is massive, but >> doesn't really contain an overview that explains explicitly what it does >> or can do. At least not in language I understood. The INSTALL file >> alone is some 1200 lines, and there are 82 manpages. > > INN really isn't targetted for the small user or for someone not already > very familiar with news. I'd like to increase its friendliness, but it's > difficult to do and requires a bunch of infrastructure improvements. > > Many individual users are probably better off with something considerably > smaller, like leafnode. Hello Russ, I saw your name figured prominently in the documentation. Just the INSTALL file alone looks like it was a major piece of work. I fully understand now, how something with this much too it would be quite difficult to present in a `friendly' way. And don't envy you the task one little bit. It might forstall other dummies like me, if the FAQ (in the overview section) were to say point blank. That inn isn't for the faint of heart and not for light news downloading. I didn't really get that message from reading the overview. Maybe just unfamiliar with the terms used there. Jorge Godoy writes: [...] > If you need that, I have made RPM packages. Drop me a message if you > want them. Thanks for the offer. Only problem I have with leafnode. (And I don't have it running) is that it wants to second guess what gets downloaded based on usage. Is it still the case that you have to trick it into downloading stuff you don't actually read as news? I want to just say download these groups, put them in a newsrc or something and thats that, no tricky heuristics or the like. Suck can do that, but lacks much in the way of interface to newsrc. It wants an active file from HOST, and actually expects inn configuration files. Although it doesn't depend on them. Last time I got involved with suck, I wrote shell scripts to convert gnus .newsrc so it would update the one suck uses. But lost track of all that and didn't want to redo it. It would take rewriting anyway since it was doing quite a lot more.