From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/25817 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: dsg@mitre.org (David S. Goldberg) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Unwanted catchup when entering a newsgroup Date: 11 Oct 1999 10:15:08 -0400 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87emf5x9vv.fsf@deneb.cygnus.argh.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035163135 16004 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 01:18:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:18:55 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from spinoza.math.uh.edu (spinoza.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.18]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15679 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:17:41 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by spinoza.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAB06886; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:17:21 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:17:21 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24296 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 09:17:10 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from linus.mitre.org (linus.mitre.org [129.83.10.1]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15670 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:15:10 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from blackbird.mitre.org (blackbird [129.83.65.14]) by linus.mitre.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA00556 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:15:09 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from dsg@localhost) by blackbird.mitre.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA01850; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 10:15:08 -0400 (EDT) Mail-Copies-To: never Original-To: The Gnus Mailing List X-Face: GUaHTH@nS>[7,ME@-gYZ4#Wl{z"99k@[[Y8AcP0x1paqu.,z9,XSV1WI>{q3f6^e5(zrit <4fV&VHhmE`uidRqtmG27;si9&r;#KSF~E#$%W8w(xdp)H4tW=\2XOk~3=@oGqqpj;m4xf Ow;y26396&,34@9#~4;@*S;E0cq"LM9N(us4P%F(Nxis'Vvfm9?KufH;:Q$dMa-QWGLR&K d0`LJZE8xb*>^yN>b]_NcU:E=Zn\1=#/(OS2 In-Reply-To: piet@cs.uu.nl's message of "11 Oct 1999 10:32:29 +0200" Original-Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070097 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.97) XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:25817 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:25817 >>>>> Florian Weimer (FW) writes: >>> From time to time, Gnus marks as read all articles of a newsgroup FW> when I try to enter this group (and doesn't show the summary FW> buffer). After that, the unread article count is zero. This FW> happens only very sporadically, and I haven't been able to track FW> it down yet. Any ideas? I haven't observed this with v0.96 or FW> mail groups, BTW. > I have observed the same. I just went back to the official gnus > version (5.6.45) and looked in those newsgroups and found no > messages that I had missed. So my guess is that pgnus just makes an > error in the initial article count. I've seen that as well. I've also found on occasion that my scoring rules end up catching up the entire group. I use adaptive scoring with an expunge and duplicate suppression as well as some aggressive manual scoring. Still, I find it a bit disconcerting when an entire days worth of news is eliminated that way. I find a fairly easy, if time consuming for certain groups, check is to do a C-u 0 M-RET on the group. That gives me an empty summary buffer. Since I ordinarily use threading, I do a T T to turn threading off and then a C-c C-s C-n to sort by article number. I haven't yet found anything at the end of that buffer that I actually wanted to read anyway. -- Dave Goldberg Post: The Mitre Corporation\MS B325\202 Burlington Rd.\Bedford, MA 01730 Phone: 781-271-3887 Email: dsg@mitre.org