bug: wrong number of mails

bug: wrong number of mails

[Stefan Waldherr]

Hi,

I have two (!) mails in my inbox. Yet, any time I enter the group gnus asks me
how mane mails I want to read (206?). This sucks.

I have deleted and re-created my inbox. I moved all mail from my inbox to my
inbox (to make MAX-MIN=2). I have nnml-generate-nov-databases'ed several
times. Nothing worked. Any idea?

Thanks,
Stefan.

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Re: bug: wrong number of mails

[Dave Thomas]

---->"SW" == Stefan Waldherr <stefan@waldherr.org> writes:

  SW> Hi, I have two (!) mails in my inbox. Yet, any time I enter the
  SW> group gnus asks me how mane mails I want to read (206?). This
  SW> sucks.

I someone wanted to create a housekeeping function to compress down
the range of numbers in nnml groups, would it simply be a case of
renumbering the files and hacking the active file? Is the change
always local to a folder?

If so, I might have a go.

Be afraid. Be very afraid...

Dave

Re: bug: wrong number of mails

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Dave Thomas <Dave@Thomases.com> writes:

> I someone wanted to create a housekeeping function to compress down
> the range of numbers in nnml groups, would it simply be a case of
> renumbering the files and hacking the active file? Is the change
> always local to a folder?

If you move the articles to the same group they are in, you'll
effectively get a collapsing of the empty spaces.

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  larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

Re: bug: wrong number of mails

[Stefan Waldherr]

Hi Lars,

>>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

  Lars> If you move the articles to the same group they are in, you'll
  Lars> effectively get a collapsing of the empty spaces.

Apparently not. I did this with my inbox a number of times. Yet, gnus still
thinks that there are more than 200 mails in the group. Well, there are two
files in the directory.

cu
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Re: bug: wrong number of mails

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Stefan Waldherr <stefan@waldherr.org> writes:

>   Lars> If you move the articles to the same group they are in, you'll
>   Lars> effectively get a collapsing of the empty spaces.
> 
> Apparently not. I did this with my inbox a number of times. Yet, gnus still
> thinks that there are more than 200 mails in the group. Well, there are two
> files in the directory.

What did you do, exactly?

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Re: bug: wrong number of mails

[Matt Simmons]

>>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

    Dave> I someone wanted to create a housekeeping function to compress down
    Dave> the range of numbers in nnml groups, would it simply be a case of
    Dave> renumbering the files and hacking the active file? Is the change
    Dave> always local to a folder?

    Lars> If you move the articles to the same group they are in, you'll
    Lars> effectively get a collapsing of the empty spaces.

I tried this once.  It thanked me by marking all of the moved articles 
as read.

Matt

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Re: bug: wrong number of mails

[David S. Goldberg]

Lars> If you move the articles to the same group they are in, you'll
Lars> effectively get a collapsing of the empty spaces.

Matt> I tried this once.  It thanked me by marking all of the moved
Matt> articles as read.

How long ago?  I haven't seen that problem in ages.  I'm pretty sure
it was fixed some time in the Quassia cycle.  I compress my mailing
list folders (I abuse the tick and dormant marks) regularly with this
method and all my marks are preserved and no new ones added.
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Re: bug: wrong number of mails

[Stefan Waldherr]

Hi Lars,

>>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

  Lars> What did you do, exactly?

So I have a group `inbox' which contains 7 mails,

swa@amadeus:~> ll Mail/inbox/
total 28
drwx------   2 swa      learning     1024 Apr 23 18:06 .
drwxr--r-- 187 swa      learning     8192 Apr 23 18:21 ..
-rw-------   1 swa      learning     1493 Apr 23 18:06 .overview
-rw-------   1 swa      learning     1333 Apr 21 19:46 1788
-rw-------   1 swa      learning     1841 Apr 21 19:46 1789
-rw-------   1 swa      learning     4068 Apr 22 17:29 1796
-rw-------   1 swa      learning     1807 Apr 23 09:45 1799
-rw-------   1 swa      learning     1230 Apr 23 18:05 1800
-rw-------   1 swa      learning     1966 Apr 23 18:06 1801
-rw-------   1 swa      learning     2198 Apr 23 18:06 1802

the overview file sez

swa@amadeus:~> cat Mail/inbox/.overview
1788    neue addresse   Stefan Waldherr <stefan@waldherr.org>   28 Feb 1999 21:42:41 +0100      <upkg17qi7jy.fsf@amadeus.waldherr.org>          326     18     Xref: amadeus.waldherr.org inbox:1788    To: Stefan Waldherr <stefan@waldherr.org>
1789    log files       SWA@de.ibm.com  Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:21:31 +0100 <C1256758.0043ECA9.00@d12mta01.de.ibm.com>              308     14      Xref: amadeus.waldherr.org inbox:1789   To: stefan@waldherr.org
1796    Re: E-mail abuse report (was: RE: BIOTECH BARGAIN!)     Internet Direct <security@direct.ca>    Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:13:24 -0700 <3.0.3.32.19990421121324.0072a650@direct.ca>    <upk7lrbxe1w.fsf@amadeus.waldherr.org>  3086    85     Xref: amadeus.waldherr.org inbox:1796    To: Stefan Waldherr <stefan@waldherr.org>
1799    junkbuster      SWA@de.ibm.com  Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:49:46 +0100 <C125675B.00518B27.00@d12mta01.de.ibm.com>              273     14      Xref: amadeus.waldherr.org inbox:1799   To: stefan@waldherr.org
1800    =URL    Lindsay.Marshall@newcastle.ac.uk        Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:11:27 +0100 (GMT)   <199904230909.KAA08781@cheviot.ncl.ac.uk>               69     6Xref: amadeus.waldherr.org inbox:1800   To: stefan@waldherr.org
1801    (none)  SWA@de.ibm.com  Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:46:57 +0100 <C125675C.0040D10C.00@d12mta01.de.ibm.com>              448     16      Xref: amadeus.waldherr.org inbox:1801   To: stefan@waldherr.org
1802    Re: urgent!     support <support@xeran.com>     Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:12:27 -0400 <4.1.19990423111157.00a9faf0@xeran.com> <Pine.LNX.3.96.990421194338.5691A-100000@hellpit.doom.net>      943     30      Xref: amadeus.waldherr.org inbox:1802   To: Stefan Waldherr <stefan@waldherr.org>

Now, upon entering the group, gnus ask me, how many [333] mails I want to
read?. This number is clearly wrong. So I enter the group, mark all 7 of them,
and `B m' them to the same group. I leave the group, and re-enter. Guess what?
gnus now asks me for 340 mails?

What can I do?

cu
Stefan.
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Re: bug: wrong number of mails

[David S. Goldberg]

>>>>> Stefan Waldherr writes:
> swa@amadeus:~> ll Mail/inbox/

[7 mails + .overview; conclude nnml :-)]


> the overview file sez

[looks like what you want]

> Now, upon entering the group, gnus ask me, how many [333] mails I
> want to read?. This number is clearly wrong. So I enter the group,
> mark all 7 of them, and `B m' them to the same group. I leave the
> group, and re-enter. Guess what?  gnus now asks me for 340 mails?

> What can I do?

Check the nnml active file.  I just had this happen to me when I tried
to copy an nnml group from one system to another (I just tarred up the
directory).  I did an F to find the new group, but although it only
had about 20 messages in it I was told there were 340 messages there
(340 was the highest numbered article), and like you experienced,
entering the group and reading the messages did not solve that, nor
did packing the group with B-m.  However, running
(nnml-generate-active-info "/home/dsg/.Mail/linux") in the scratch
buffer fixed it for me.
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Re: bug: wrong number of mails

[Stefan Waldherr]

Hi David,

>>>>> "David" == David S Goldberg <dsg@mitre.org> writes:

  David> did packing the group with B-m.  However, running
  David> (nnml-generate-active-info "/home/dsg/.Mail/linux") in the scratch
  David> buffer fixed it for me.

*sigh* That yields

Symbol's value as variable is void: files

cu
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Re: bug: wrong number of mails

[David S. Goldberg]

Gaak you're right.  I was trying so many things I misremembered which
one worked.  I'm pretty sure (of course I was "pretty sure before
too") what fixed it was:

(nnmail-save-active nnml-group-alist "/home/dsg/.Mail/active")

You might want to use a different active file in the above and compare
the difference to be safe.
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