From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/42432 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Make gnus-agent another mail backend? Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:51:03 -0800 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <200201100209.g0A29gx29335@reader.local.lan> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035177670 11333 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 05:21:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 05:21:10 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 24175 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2002 17:52:23 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2002 17:52:23 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16T55R-0006de-00; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:51:57 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:51:51 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA05337 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:51:40 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 24041 invoked by alias); 22 Jan 2002 17:51:41 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 24036 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2002 17:51:40 -0000 Original-Received: from smtp.newsguy.com (HELO newsguy.com) (209.155.56.71) by gnus.org with SMTP; 22 Jan 2002 17:51:40 -0000 Original-Received: from reader.local.lan (adsl-66.51.210.228.dslextreme.com [66.51.210.228]) by newsguy.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA70771 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:51:10 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.local.lan (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0MHp9v16251; Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:51:09 -0800 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 22 Jan 2002 18:10:34 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090005 (Oort Gnus v0.05) Emacs/21.1 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) Original-Lines: 27 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:42432 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:42432 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > Harry Putnam writes: > >>> Yes. It would make the Agent's storage not correspond with the real >>> server storage, meaning that we would have to implement ways of not >>> letting expiry touch certain articles, etc. >> >> But isn't that already the case? The stuff in an agentized group can >> way outdate what is on the server. Keeping up with that difference >> was implemented way back about pgnus-[20-21]. > > The real question is -- why on earth would you want to edit articles > in the Agent? Why wouldn't you just like to be able to edit any > arbitrary article from any read-only backend? What is the difference? Would one have to do some kind of work to get them into a state (in cache?), where this editing or other maillike things could happen? If this were automated it would be very similar to what I was suggesting I think. I didn't understand your argument about cache the first time around though so maybe just not `getting it'. Does cache offer the other things that go with mail backends, like complex expiry? Editing isn't the only thing missing in agentized messages. It would be nice to be able to target-expire them. Especially if someone can think of a way to base expiry on date AND score AND readedness.