From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/40741 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: request for ideas: organizing old email in gnus? Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 09:16:05 -0800 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035176244 2511 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:57:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:57:24 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 27081 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2001 17:17:16 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2001 17:17:16 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16BffN-0006ai-00; Wed, 05 Dec 2001 11:17:05 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 05 Dec 2001 11:16:51 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA05336 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 11:16:37 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 27062 invoked by alias); 5 Dec 2001 17:16:45 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 27057 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2001 17:16:45 -0000 Original-Received: from smtp.newsguy.com (HELO newsguy.com) (209.155.56.71) by gnus.org with SMTP; 5 Dec 2001 17:16:45 -0000 Original-Received: from reader.local.lan (adsl-66.51.210.228.dslextreme.com [66.51.210.228]) by newsguy.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA39236 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 09:16:15 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.local.lan (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB5HGCk29291; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 09:16:12 -0800 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE's message of "Wed, 05 Dec 2001 17:45:07 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) Original-Lines: 45 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:40741 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:40741 Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes: > Bill White writes: > >> For example, would you respool into groups containing thousands of >> emails, or into smaller monthly or yearly groups, such as ding-1998-03 >> for ding messages from March 1998? I'm leaning toward the latter >> since summary generation would be faster in case I needed to browse >> the group, but threading might get messy/b0rken. > > If you choose large enough chunks (eg, yearly rather than monthly), > then you could manually make sure to copy whole threads. I've tinkered a lot with this sort of stuff. Depending on size I think you will find that above 2-3 thousand messages is a pain to deal with due to summary generation or any other process that works against the whole group or most of it. All those cool features are nice but they do cost something in process time. Maybe you could cancel some of the more expensive ones in Group param or gnus-parameters. I've never tried that. I haven't done this either but you might consider breaking it up on a size basis rather than date. Confining each group to 2000 or less, would gaurentee easy manipulation. I would go for monthly chunks (again, depending on size) which could be organized under topics too I guess, but I was never to thrilled with topics. You will break more threads with monthly chunks but I think it is unavoidable and the `^' command will still chase down a reference (assuming nnml). An nnir search would still find subject line regardless of group if you give it an (groups) inclusive command. In brief: If you expect to do browsing as in a regular group then go for the smaller size. `A T' won't retrieve a full thread if it is broken but `^' will. If you expect to mainly pull out info with search engines then large size may be better. Not sure what `A T' might do under a topic but where the the actual messages are in two difffernet groups but under the same topic.