From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/26130 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: dsg@mitre.org (David S. Goldberg) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: ahh... it's the problem noted a few months back Date: 02 Nov 1999 12:06:03 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035163396 17809 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 01:23:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:23:16 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from lisa.math.uh.edu (lisa.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.49]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12891 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:06:47 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by lisa.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAB16694; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 11:06:35 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 02 Nov 1999 11:06:52 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07553 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 11:06:40 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from linus.mitre.org (linus.mitre.org [129.83.10.1]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12884 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:06:05 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from blackbird.mitre.org (blackbird [129.83.65.14]) by linus.mitre.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA22813 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:06:04 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: (from dsg@localhost) by blackbird.mitre.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA03917; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:06:04 -0500 (EST) Mail-Copies-To: never Original-To: The Gnus Mailing List X-Face: GUaHTH@nS>[7,ME@-gYZ4#Wl{z"99k@[[Y8AcP0x1paqu.,z9,XSV1WI>{q3f6^e5(zrit <4fV&VHhmE`uidRqtmG27;si9&r;#KSF~E#$%W8w(xdp)H4tW=\2XOk~3=@oGqqpj;m4xf Ow;y26396&,34@9#~4;@*S;E0cq"LM9N(us4P%F(Nxis'Vvfm9?KufH;:Q$dMa-QWGLR&K d0`LJZE8xb*>^yN>b]_NcU:E=Zn\1=#/(OS2 In-Reply-To: merlyn@stonehenge.com's message of "02 Nov 1999 08:23:35 -0800" Original-Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070097 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.97) XEmacs/21.1 (Biscayne) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:26130 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:26130 Yes, this is the one thing I really dislike about the new mail-source stuff. I guess it works OK for people who use gnus' internal splitting since the only people I see complaining use something external (e.g. procmail or whatever). The only workaround I know of is to set those nnml groups that actually expect to receive new mail to a lower level and then call 'g' with that level. This works, but I've found other reasons for it to be less than satisfying; in particular the only way I can find to activate all the other groups (so I can get completion on their names, if nothing else) is to call 'g' with the higher level and that takes a long time due to the attempt to fetch new mail that is guaranteed not to be there. It also means that I've got a difficult choice of whether to put those groups at a level higher or lower than nntp groups. I've chosen lower which means when I want to read nntp groups (via 4 g in my case) I have to wait for nnml to try to fetch new mail for all the higher level groups. I live with this because I don't read nntp groups all that often. I think someone once suggested creating a separate nnml server for the non-mail-receiving groups, but that just seems like too much of a hassle. -- Dave Goldberg Post: The Mitre Corporation\MS B325\202 Burlington Rd.\Bedford, MA 01730 Phone: 781-271-3887 Email: dsg@mitre.org