From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/36477 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Sender header? Date: 27 May 2001 15:00:12 -0700 Message-ID: References: <01May23.141128edt.115245@gateway.intersys.com> <01May24.115917edt.115250@gateway.intersys.com> <01May24.143521edt.115214@gateway.intersys.com> <01May24.153439edt.115213@gateway.intersys.com> <01May24.163305edt.115259@gateway.intersys.com> <01May24.172056edt.115272@gateway.intersys.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035172055 8807 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:47:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:47:35 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 19748 invoked by alias); 27 May 2001 22:00:16 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 19743 invoked from network); 27 May 2001 22:00:16 -0000 Original-Received: from mail.networkone.net (209.144.112.246) by gnus.org with SMTP; 27 May 2001 22:00:16 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 16038 invoked from network); 27 May 2001 22:00:15 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO reader.local.lan) (209.144.117.151) by mail.networkone.net with SMTP; 27 May 2001 22:00:15 -0000 Original-Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.local.lan (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f4RM0Cp28357; Sun, 27 May 2001 15:00:12 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: reader.local.lan: reader set sender to reader@newsguy.com using -f Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (prj@po.cwru.edu's message of "27 May 2001 17:39:13 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) Emacs/20.7 Original-Lines: 30 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:36477 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:36477 prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) writes: > I see: Message-ID: > But if this were generated by an SMTP receiver, then I would expect it > to be mixed in with the Received fields, which it wasn't. Are you > sure you disabled msgid generation entirely, both in Gnus and local > MTA? Yeah, so I noticed. I just removed message-id field when mailing. I have a variable set that puts all outgoing (gnus generated) headers in the compose buffer. I thought just removing it there would cause gnus to omit it. Apparently not. Apparently gnus regenerated it on send because that is a gnus/emacs Message-id. Apparently that doesn't work. The method Kai posted does work, but still sendmail or something generates a local message-id. I've decided for the moment to just generate the right thing with gnus by hacking. Doesn't seem possible to stop message id generation locally. Gnus is easy, but the mta is another story. What a big pain in the ass the whole thing is. I'd hoped to disable message id generation locally and let my outgoing smtp IP machine handle it. But Just stopping gnus doens'nt produce that effect either. I tried in other messges else were after disabling gnus altogether and my Machine name still gets stuck in there by sendmail I guess. Can one stop sendmail from generating a message-id? If I can do that then mutt pine or whatever will all stop sticking in my local machine name I hope.