From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/40512 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Something fundamental - how nov works Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 20:35:25 -0800 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035176050 1313 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:54:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:54:10 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 23205 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2001 04:36:49 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2001 04:36:49 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 167r1s-0002FD-00; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 22:36:32 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sat, 24 Nov 2001 22:36:16 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA13701 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 22:36:05 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 23195 invoked by alias); 25 Nov 2001 04:36:16 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 23190 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2001 04:36:16 -0000 Original-Received: from smtp.newsguy.com (HELO newsguy.com) (209.155.56.71) by gnus.org with SMTP; 25 Nov 2001 04:36:16 -0000 Original-Received: from reader.local.lan (adsl-66.51.210.228.dslextreme.com [66.51.210.228]) by newsguy.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA90779 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 20:35:47 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.local.lan (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAP4Zi022308; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 20:35:44 -0800 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Karl Kleinpaste's message of "Sat, 24 Nov 2001 23:10:27 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) Original-Lines: 53 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:40512 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:40512 Karl Kleinpaste writes: > Harry Putnam writes: >> What is at work here? > > Score-down and expungement. I don't have any score rules in place like that. > Enter the group with M-RET and tell us if all are visible. No. My steps were.. Delete .marks and .overview Run nnml-gen-n-db-1 ~/Mail2/todo Dired view of ~/Mail2/todo /home/reader/Mail2/todo: used 44 available 2887736 drwxr-xr-x 2 reader reader 4096 Nov 24 20:20 . drwxr-xr-x 13 reader reader 4096 Nov 24 17:25 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 reader reader 4 Nov 24 20:20 .marks -rw------- 1 reader reader 781 Nov 24 20:19 .overview -rw-r--r-- 1 reader reader 190 Nov 24 18:40 1 -rw-r--r-- 1 reader reader 186 Nov 24 18:41 2 -rw-r--r-- 1 reader reader 173 Nov 24 19:03 3 -rw-r--r-- 1 reader reader 186 Nov 24 19:06 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 reader reader 186 Nov 24 19:07 5 -rw-r--r-- 1 reader reader 184 Nov 24 19:07 6 -rw-r--r-- 1 reader reader 188 Nov 24 19:07 7 `.overview' contains info on all seven. Each entry has this one odd section: fake+none+133 Where the terminating number starts at 127 and goes to 133 `.marks' contains `nil' Now entering with M- shows: 1 24-Nov [ 0: 1124183958@reader ] start the coffee now 1 24-Nov [ 0: 1124184059@reader ] start the coffee later 1 24-Nov [ 0: 1124190303@reader ] something 6:30 1 24-Nov [ 0: 1124190639@reader ] some1006657599 1006657602 C-u Z R once inside doesn't show any more. However `j will pull up those that are missing Can you tell me briefly how gnus enters a message into a group? I mean what gnus adds to the message and what it keeps track of. I realize nov will get whatever I've stipulated but assume defaults. A further detail is that `M-c' from group (remove all data) doesn't change the picture either.