From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/36382 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Sender header? Date: 24 May 2001 19:10:16 -0700 Message-ID: References: <01May23.141128edt.115245@gateway.intersys.com> <01May24.115917edt.115250@gateway.intersys.com> <01May24.143521edt.115214@gateway.intersys.com> <01May24.153439edt.115213@gateway.intersys.com> <01May24.163305edt.115259@gateway.intersys.com> <01May24.172056edt.115272@gateway.intersys.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035171976 8299 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 03:46:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 03:46:16 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 2112 invoked by alias); 25 May 2001 02:10:22 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 2107 invoked from network); 25 May 2001 02:10:21 -0000 Original-Received: from mail.networkone.net (209.144.112.246) by gnus.org with SMTP; 25 May 2001 02:10:21 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 7259 invoked from network); 25 May 2001 02:10:19 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO reader.local.lan) (209.144.117.151) by mail.networkone.net with SMTP; 25 May 2001 02:10:19 -0000 Original-Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.local.lan (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f4P2AGI15341; Thu, 24 May 2001 19:10:16 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: reader.local.lan: reader set sender to reader@newsguy.com using -f Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Barry Fishman's message of "24 May 2001 19:18:42 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) Emacs/20.7 Original-Lines: 52 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:36382 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:36382 Barry Fishman writes: > So what would be my properly configured sender address? How could I > fix my configuration to have one? Please be specific. > > My gut feeling is that it is up to the smtp server on mailhost.att.net > to provide it. In this case I need to prevent gnus from creating one > even though my "From:" address does not match my login@fqdn address. > Presently I am just doing a: > > ;; Fix message send address (I don't have a real hostname > (defun message-make-sender () > "Return own mail address as sender" > (message-make-address)) I got hollered at on comp.editors for having a made up rhs of message id which is somewhat related to this discussion. Describing another situation where it isn't really clear what I should have for a From or sender address. My situation isn't quite as complex as Barrys but is probably fairly typical of home users in US. I have a dsl connection on static ip. Right now my router (not a machine with an OS running on it) has the IP address assigned to me. My computer has an internal class c 192 address as do the others on my home network. All are capable of sending mail, all are capable of recieving mail, but not at the static ip address, But at my IP's mail machine address. The router is NAT enabled and knows who sent what. >>From what I'm seeing on this thread, the router which has my static IP address is what the sender would be derived from, however it cannot recieve mail for that address, only for either my IP domain or newsguy To complicate things a little further. I don't actually use my IPs address but have a newsguy account I do most of my mail with. That from address uses newguy.com domain but is not my machine but the address of a machine several hundred miles from me. I've been thoroughly confused about these matters for quite some time. I'd be interested to hear Rats or others views of what I should be doing regarding From and sender. (Message-ID would be a bonus). Currently I've told gnus to stick my IP smtp server address in Message-ID. And disabled sender generation. (defun message-make-fqdn () "My hacked message-id." "ptw.com")