From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/39626 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Agent Download technique for unusual groups Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:31:40 -0700 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035175308 28984 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:41:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:41:48 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 9785 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2001 20:36:33 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 22 Oct 2001 20:36:33 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 15vlnq-0002mY-00; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:36:06 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:35:45 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA02891 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:35:35 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 9772 invoked by alias); 22 Oct 2001 20:35:48 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 9767 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2001 20:35:48 -0000 Original-Received: from smtp.newsguy.com (HELO newsguy.com) (209.155.56.71) by gnus.org with SMTP; 22 Oct 2001 20:35:48 -0000 Original-Received: from reader.local.lan (66.51.210.228.dslextreme.com [66.51.210.228] (may be forged)) by newsguy.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA88141 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:35:18 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.local.lan (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9MKZH511512; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:35:17 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: reader.local.lan: reader set sender to reader@newsguy.com using -f Original-To: ding@gnus.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.0.106 Original-Lines: 35 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:39626 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:39626 I'd like to hear about ways to do this proceedure. Using gnus-agent for most of my reading: I have a few groups that I read only casually and my casual reading does not lend itself to category based on score file. Like scoring a subject, author etc. to cause those to be downloaded. What I'm trying currently is to set the category default to false and list that group in that category. That way I get the author and subject in summary buffer and mark with %, presss `J u' (`gnus-agent-fetch-groups') to download them then M-g to actually get them into the summary buffer in downloaded form. This works but leaves a lot to be desired. For example: I'd like to mark an article with something that would cause the agent to download any messages to that thread. A thread watch mark like some other newsreaders have. Yet still the category remain default false. That is, I want a mark that causes a specific thread to be downloaded as it comes in with no more effort than my initially marking a specific message with %. I don't want to have to mark each newly arrived (no body) message as it comes in. I can think of at least one possibliity to do this using thread based hand scoring, but can that work with a default of false? Are there already existing ways to do this? A better approach might be to just download the entire group. (Category true) and be able to set gnus-agent-expire differently for individual groups. Instead of the current setup where gnus-agent-expire settings are unilateral. Combining that with the ability to say what gnus-agent-expire actually expires. Like messages with no bodys only or similar. In short, G p mail setting be applied to nntp/agent groups.