Something breaking batch command - possilbe `marks' related [or] Boot strap mania

Something breaking batch command - possilbe `marks' related [or] Boot strap mania

[Harry Putnam]

Recent cvs, including 5 minutes ago cause an error in my, long in
existence, batch send/fetch scripts.

The output from script in debug mode indicates gnus is trying to
create a directory and file and .marks it should not be:

106: emacs -batch -l /home/reader/.emacs-dir/batch-fetch.el -f lars-fetch-news
106: 2>&1 
106: awk_cmd
106: tee -a /home/reader/t/var/log/gnus_batch.log
Aug 27 2001 10:16:25 Loading ~/.emacs-custom...
Aug 27 2001 10:16:28 Wrote /home/reader/.newsrc-dribble
Aug 27 2001 10:16:28 Reading /home/reader/.newsrc.eld...
Aug 27 2001 10:16:28 Reading active file from enews.newsguy.com via nntp...
Aug 27 2001 10:16:39 Reading active file via nnml...
Aug 27 2001 10:16:39 Opening nnml server...
Aug 27 2001 10:16:39 
Aug 27 2001 10:16:39 nnml: Reading incoming mail from directory...
Aug 27 2001 10:16:40 Wrote /home/reader/Mail/cron_fetchall/2420
Aug 27 2001 10:16:40 nnml: Reading incoming mail (1 new)...done
Aug 27 2001 10:16:40 Reading active file via nnml...
Aug 27 2001 10:16:40 Reading active file via nnml...done
Aug 27 2001 10:16:40 Reading active file from archive via nnfolder...
Aug 27 2001 10:16:40 Opening nnfolder server on archive...
Aug 27 2001 10:16:40 
Aug 27 2001 10:16:40 Reading active file from archive via nnfolder...
Aug 27 2001 10:16:40 Reading active file from archive via nnfolder...done
Aug 27 2001 10:16:40 21 new newsgroups have arrived
Aug 27 2001 10:16:40 Checking new news...

    WHERE does this come from?

Aug 27 2001 10:16:40 Updating marks for mail-0801...
Aug 27 2001 10:16:40 Bootstrapping marks for mail-0801...
Aug 27 2001 10:16:40 Creating mail directory /home/reader/Mail/mail-0801/
Aug 27 2001 10:16:40 Could not write to /home/reader/Mail/mail-0801/.marks ((file-error Opening output file not a directory /home/reader/Mail/mail-0801/.marks)).  Continue? (yes or no) Error reading from stdin

========================================

My split hasn't been changed recently. It includes some archive code
like this:

[...] Begin split code
(setq nnmail-split-methods 
  '(("tests" "^Subject:.*test.*labridge") 

[...] tail of split code
    ("wgdev" "^Sender:.owner-wgdev@webglimpse") 
    ("Edited"  "^Subject: \\[ed\\]\\|^Subject:  \\[ed\\]") 
      ("misc" ""))) 

(setq gnus-message-archive-group
      '((let ((current-archive-date-string
	       (format-time-string "%m%y" (current-time))))
	  (concat (if (message-news-p)
		      "news-"
		    "mail-")
		  current-archive-date-string))))

========================================

These files appeared in ~/Mail recently:
-rw-r--r--    1 reader   reader       3314 Aug 27 01:02 mail-0801
-rw-------    1 reader   reader        315 Aug 27 01:02 mail-0801.nov


Having removed the abover files, gnus has created a spanking new
directory that it shouldn't and populated it with a .marks file.

Now every time I take a breath, I get bootstrapped... What's up with
rampant bootstrapping?

Re: Something breaking batch command - possilbe `marks' related [or] Boot strap mania

[Simon Josefsson]

Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:

>     WHERE does this come from?
>
> Aug 27 2001 10:16:40 Updating marks for mail-0801...
> Aug 27 2001 10:16:40 Bootstrapping marks for mail-0801...
> Aug 27 2001 10:16:40 Creating mail directory /home/reader/Mail/mail-0801/
> Aug 27 2001 10:16:40 Could not write to /home/reader/Mail/mail-0801/.marks ((file-error Opening output file not a directory /home/reader/Mail/mail-0801/.marks)).  Continue? (yes or no) Error reading from stdin

Looks like you have a nnml server and a group "mail-0801".  Not
correct?

> (setq gnus-message-archive-group
>       '((let ((current-archive-date-string
> 	       (format-time-string "%m%y" (current-time))))
> 	  (concat (if (message-news-p)
> 		      "news-"
> 		    "mail-")
> 		  current-archive-date-string))))

What is the `gnus-message-archive-method'?

> These files appeared in ~/Mail recently:
> -rw-r--r--    1 reader   reader       3314 Aug 27 01:02 mail-0801
> -rw-------    1 reader   reader        315 Aug 27 01:02 mail-0801.nov

It looks like a nnfolder in the same directory as the nnml server
above.  Do you have two servers using the same directory?  Look in the
server buffer to find out.  I don't think the marks stuff is creating
new groups.

Re: Something breaking batch command - possilbe `marks' related [or] Boot strap mania

[Harry Putnam]

Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:


> Looks like you have a nnml server and a group "mail-0801".  Not
> correct?
No, at least I never did before 

It is supposed to be an archive under Mail/archive/mail-<whatever>
A spool format file.  Until recently that was how it worked.  I've
made no intentional changes there.
Up until recently archived (gcc) messages ended up in
Mail/archive/mail-<date> or
Mail/archive/news-<date>
Not nnml style at all.

>
>> (setq gnus-message-archive-group
>>       '((let ((current-archive-date-string
>> 	       (format-time-string "%m%y" (current-time))))
>> 	  (concat (if (message-news-p)
>> 		      "news-"
>> 		    "mail-")
>> 		  current-archive-date-string))))
>
> What is the `gnus-message-archive-method'?

   gnus-message-archive-method's value is "archive"
   
   Documentation:
   *Method used for archiving messages you've sent.
   This should be a mail method