From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/42537 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: nnmaildir (was: db-backed mail back end) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 10:14:04 -0800 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87g04x7w4q.fsf@inanna.rimspace.net> <874rlbiqay.fsf_-_@paradoxical.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035177765 12375 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 05:22:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 05:22:45 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 15569 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2002 18:16:40 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 24 Jan 2002 18:16:40 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16ToQ4-0008GG-00; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 12:16:16 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 24 Jan 2002 12:16:11 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA17353 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 12:15:59 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 15560 invoked by alias); 24 Jan 2002 18:15:57 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 15555 invoked from network); 24 Jan 2002 18:15:57 -0000 Original-Received: from smtp.newsguy.com (HELO newsguy.com) (209.155.56.71) by gnus.org with SMTP; 24 Jan 2002 18:15:57 -0000 Original-Received: from reader.local.lan (adsl-66.51.210.228.dslextreme.com [66.51.210.228]) by newsguy.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA92358 for ; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 10:15:27 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.local.lan (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0OIFSk00481; Thu, 24 Jan 2002 10:15:28 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: reader.local.lan: reader set sender to reader@newsguy.com using -f Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <874rlbiqay.fsf_-_@paradoxical.net> (Josh Huber's message of "Thu, 24 Jan 2002 12:58:45 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090005 (Oort Gnus v0.05) Emacs/21.1 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) Original-Lines: 31 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:42537 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:42537 Josh Huber writes: > prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) writes: > >> nnmaildir stores NOV information in one file per message. Finding >> an article's NOV information is as fast as finding the article >> itself. > > Indeed, I've been meaning to try nnmaildir out. Would it be very > painful to migrate from nnml to maildir? Perhaps I'll try it for just > a couple groups to start with... I'd be interested in hearing your results... I had lots of trouble trying to run both nnml and nnmaildir, but since then Paul J. has fixed lots of stuff. I haven't tried running both since before the fixes though. Still using nnmaildir alone on a secondary machine, but my main mail/news, on the main machine, is still non-nnmaildir and mostly nnml. I think, if you have some semi-large to large groups you may notice some significant slowness in initial startup as nnmaildir processes everything, but after starting, you may find group entry to be noticably faster. I don't hnow how much of that applies since Pauls new release and other fixes. One thing attractive about nnmaildir to me is that it doesn't care about adding and subtracting from outside gnus. It just finds and processes what is there (in `new') on entry. Also plays ball nicely with procmail (like nnml does) since procmail has a builtin recognition of maildir setup, and knows how to write to nnmaildir groups.