From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 19444 invoked from network); 19 May 2020 18:12:54 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.208) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 19 May 2020 18:12:54 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1jb6iu-0000oT-6F; Tue, 19 May 2020 13:12:16 -0500 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1jb6ip-0000lh-T4 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 19 May 2020 13:12:11 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1jb6io-00019N-7g for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 19 May 2020 13:12:11 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:Reply-To:References:Message-ID:Date: Subject:From:To:Sender:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=4b4/doxzPieaksvKLtwlxT+GPHE27s1glbGWQ7LSIMs=; b=cyQsi7CTprO/619K1l2X++vQBw 2UrjHhPyTggclqoCmZewH5mKoEjmEYi7606TJimJedgNbmiUmtGYJMtaw1zChHybg6vWDJt21ZX8h tyoOAGbrI+f/ujWTDZtDiAIwOVMYdlTeYaR42G3RFreriy5GwB/tdOBg5GUVHD7isWxA=; Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([159.69.161.202]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jb6ih-00054R-7G for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 19 May 2020 20:12:05 +0200 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jb6if-000CFw-Cw for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 19 May 2020 20:12:01 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: ding@gnus.org From: Sam Steingold Subject: Re: How to debug scoring? Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 14:11:56 -0400 Organization: disorganization Message-ID: References: <874kscqbtx.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: sds@gnu.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Npgf5fXbizBfMWZ4kZtUR45X4yg= X-Attribution: Sam X-Disclaimer: You should not expect anyone to agree with me. List-ID: Precedence: bulk > * Lars Ingebrigtsen [2020-05-19 15:43:54 +0200]: > > Sam Steingold writes: > >> my scoring woes are back: >> >> 1. `V S` shows different score from `V t` which... >> 2. shows a rule from a score file not applicable to this group > > What's the output from `V S'? `V t` ==> "No score rules apply to the current article (default score 0)." `V S` ==> -100 >> How do I debug this? >> - how do I figure out a full list of all score files applicable to this >> group? (and why) >> - how do I figure out why `V S` and `V t` report different scores? > > They should ideally be identical, and I can't recall seeing them being > different? I don't have any tips for debugging this other than > edebugging the functions in question and looking at what they do > different. I was hoping for something like a list of "functions in question"... I have long given up on figuring out the complexities of gnus ;-( Thanks! -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on darwin Ns 10.3.1671 http://childpsy.net http://calmchildstories.com http://steingoldpsychology.com http://think-israel.org https://ffii.org https://mideasttruth.com OK, so you're a Ph.D. Just don't touch anything.