From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/85289 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Nobis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Prevent mails from being expired Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 09:06:02 +0100 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1416730060 17258 80.91.229.3 (23 Nov 2014 08:07:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 08:07:40 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M33533@lists.math.uh.edu Sun Nov 23 09:07:30 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XsSCf-0001JI-LT for ding-account@gmane.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 09:07:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1XsSBf-0003dc-H0; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 02:06:27 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1XsSBc-0003dQ-2O for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 02:06:24 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1XsSBQ-00073Y-FC for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 02:06:22 -0600 Original-Received: from basilikum.nobis-admin.de ([89.238.71.130]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XsSBN-0001az-Ob for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 09:06:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by basilikum.nobis-admin.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B3097E3B45 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 09:06:09 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=snobis.de; s=default; t=1416729969; bh=FST3HHGNsT3UV43fRZfvIPrK4uHBIt56aBhl8FAR7qE=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From; b=GGxhJr5CXzedtrKUY3I66JQ6nliAjCiBlk6OBTk31iOeb4NFq6V9zUYW9KpFiDlHE ojX4Rr5wE9z5T8rmu275GzOg7/vgZUkoUba47cvuPWmb6EuHeKu1qhtv5kwCEdO8ig 2k+T65QQbrDEtMyhswNs5qIIEMfLRRypbDsPkGVc= X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at basilikum.nobis-admin.de Original-Received: from basilikum.nobis-admin.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (basilikum.nobis-admin.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NYA1BPi5ONXr for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 09:06:03 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from karotte.salat.nobis-admin.de (g224176185.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.224.176.185]) by basilikum.nobis-admin.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 09:06:03 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by karotte.salat.nobis-admin.de (Postfix, from userid 502) id B319FD159EF; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 09:06:02 +0100 (CET) Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (darwin) X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85289 Archived-At: Hi. I just created a new IMAP mail group and want to put some mails from my main inbox into that new group and these mails should never be deleted. Usually I open my main inbox, read a mail and then decide to move it to the new group. But my main inbox is configured to auto-expire mails, so once I read a mail it is marked as expirable (with a capital E). When I now move this mail into the new group, it is still marked as expirable. When I enter the new group and leave it again, my moved and expirable mail will be deleted by the expiry process at once. I thought I did understand the expiry process, but here something magic happens. The new group is set to (auto-epxire . nil) via group parameters (and according to the documentation the expirable mark should be removed on copying or moving to a group in with auto-expire is not turned on - but this does not happen) and additionally I set (expiry-wait . 'never). Both settings do not help - I have to got to the moved mail and manually set its mark from expirable back to read. Only then it will not be expired. Has anyone an idea what I'm doing wrong or how I could further investigate the problem? -- Until the next mail..., Stefan.