* What view for these nasty word *.doc files
@ 2002-01-23 23:00 Harry Putnam
2002-01-23 23:17 ` Bjørn Mork
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From: Harry Putnam @ 2002-01-23 23:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
What technique do people use to open these nasty word *.doc files?
I mean besides threatening to shoot the sender...
mswordview almost always tells me its a word 7 file and that it can't
touch it. There is an html file produced when I try that but its empty.
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* Re: What view for these nasty word *.doc files
2002-01-23 23:00 What view for these nasty word *.doc files Harry Putnam
@ 2002-01-23 23:17 ` Bjørn Mork
2002-01-24 2:18 ` Harry Putnam
2002-01-23 23:32 ` Henrik Enberg
2002-01-24 8:32 ` Joakim Hove
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From: Bjørn Mork @ 2002-01-23 23:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> What technique do people use to open these nasty word *.doc files?
> I mean besides threatening to shoot the sender...
bmork@rasputin:~$ grep word .mailcap
application/msword;catdoc %s;copiousoutput
Works OK most of the time, and makes it really easy to answer a
MS Word mail as plain text with proper quoting.
Bjørn
--
You foul intellectual fascist!
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* Re: What view for these nasty word *.doc files
2002-01-23 23:00 What view for these nasty word *.doc files Harry Putnam
2002-01-23 23:17 ` Bjørn Mork
@ 2002-01-23 23:32 ` Henrik Enberg
2002-01-23 23:44 ` Henrik Enberg
2002-01-24 1:47 ` Harry Putnam
2002-01-24 8:32 ` Joakim Hove
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From: Henrik Enberg @ 2002-01-23 23:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> What technique do people use to open these nasty word *.doc files?
> I mean besides threatening to shoot the sender...
>From St IGNUcius himself on this very topic:
<http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/01/10/1711238&mode=thread>
> mswordview almost always tells me its a word 7 file and that it can't
> touch it. There is an html file produced when I try that but its empty.
I don't get that many, but I find that antiword does a halfway decent
job on most stuff. There is always strings if that doesn't do it...
Henrik
--
One of the common denominators I have found is that expectations rise
above that which is expected.
-- George W. Bush
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* Re: What view for these nasty word *.doc files
2002-01-23 23:32 ` Henrik Enberg
@ 2002-01-23 23:44 ` Henrik Enberg
2002-01-24 0:00 ` Jorge Godoy
2002-01-26 16:22 ` Johan Kullstam
2002-01-24 1:47 ` Harry Putnam
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From: Henrik Enberg @ 2002-01-23 23:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Henrik Enberg <henrik@enberg.org> writes:
>>From St IGNUcius himself on this very topic:
Why was there a > at the beginning of this line? It wasn't quoted.
Henrik
--
It's very important for folks to understand that when there's more
trade, there's more commerce.
-- George W. Bush
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* Re: What view for these nasty word *.doc files
2002-01-23 23:44 ` Henrik Enberg
@ 2002-01-24 0:00 ` Jorge Godoy
2002-01-26 16:22 ` Johan Kullstam
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From: Jorge Godoy @ 2002-01-24 0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: Harry Putnam, ding
Henrik Enberg <henrik@enberg.org> writes:
> Henrik Enberg <henrik@enberg.org> writes:
>
>>>>From St IGNUcius himself on this very topic:
>
> Why was there a > at the beginning of this line? It wasn't quoted.
To distinguish it from the envelope From.
See you,
--
Godoy. <godoy@conectiva.com>
Escritório de Projetos -- Conectiva S.A.
Projects Office -- Conectiva Inc.
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* Re: What view for these nasty word *.doc files
2002-01-23 23:32 ` Henrik Enberg
2002-01-23 23:44 ` Henrik Enberg
@ 2002-01-24 1:47 ` Harry Putnam
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From: Harry Putnam @ 2002-01-24 1:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
Henrik Enberg <henrik@enberg.org> writes:
> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
>
>> What technique do people use to open these nasty word *.doc files?
>> I mean besides threatening to shoot the sender...
>
>>>From St IGNUcius himself on this very topic:
>
> <http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/01/10/1711238&mode=thread>
Doesn't `Threatening to shoot the sender' cover that.... he he.
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* Re: What view for these nasty word *.doc files
2002-01-23 23:17 ` Bjørn Mork
@ 2002-01-24 2:18 ` Harry Putnam
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From: Harry Putnam @ 2002-01-24 2:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
Bjørn Mork <bmork@dod.no> writes:
> msword;catdoc %s;copiousoutput
>
> Works OK most of the time, and makes it really easy to answer a
> MS Word mail as plain text with proper quoting.
Oh .. coolio.. That looks like the ticket. I found it and built it
just now... Just let a word doc come thru now...
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* Re: What view for these nasty word *.doc files
2002-01-23 23:00 What view for these nasty word *.doc files Harry Putnam
2002-01-23 23:17 ` Bjørn Mork
2002-01-23 23:32 ` Henrik Enberg
@ 2002-01-24 8:32 ` Joakim Hove
2002-01-24 9:00 ` Bjørn Mork
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From: Joakim Hove @ 2002-01-24 8:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
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Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> What technique do people use to open these nasty word *.doc files?
> I mean besides threatening to shoot the sender...
On Linux I use the program antiword:
<URL:http://www.winfield.demon.nl/> which aI reckon better than
catdoc.
And the following lisp (documentation unfortunately in norwegian -
please ask if you have questions.):
[-- Attachment #2: word-lisp.el --]
[-- Type: application/emacs-lisp, Size: 1670 bytes --]
[-- Attachment #3: Type: text/plain, Size: 559 bytes --]
This lisp defines two functions:
load-word-file - which is used to open a word file
load-doc-cmd - which is used on the command line, i.e.
bash% emacs -f load-doc-cmd DocFile.doc
will open fire up emacs, and then load the wordfile "DocFile.doc".
Joakim Hove
--
==== Joakim Hove www.phys.ntnu.no/~hove/ =======================
|| Institutt for fysikk (735) 93637 / E3-166 | Skøyensgate 10D ||
|| N - 7491 Trondheim hove@phys.ntnu.no | N - 7030 Trondheim ||
================================================= 73 93 31 68 =========
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* Re: What view for these nasty word *.doc files
2002-01-24 8:32 ` Joakim Hove
@ 2002-01-24 9:00 ` Bjørn Mork
2002-01-26 21:55 ` Steinar Bang
2002-01-24 10:11 ` Harry Putnam
2002-01-24 17:29 ` Harry Putnam
2 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Bjørn Mork @ 2002-01-24 9:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
Joakim Hove <joakim.hove@phys.ntnu.no> writes:
> On Linux I use the program antiword:
> <URL:http://www.winfield.demon.nl/> which aI reckon better than
> catdoc.
You are right. Looks like it does a better job extracting things like
chapter numbering, indexes and tables.
Bjørn
--
Weakling!
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* Re: What view for these nasty word *.doc files
2002-01-24 8:32 ` Joakim Hove
2002-01-24 9:00 ` Bjørn Mork
@ 2002-01-24 10:11 ` Harry Putnam
2002-01-24 10:34 ` Joakim Hove
` (3 more replies)
2002-01-24 17:29 ` Harry Putnam
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From: Harry Putnam @ 2002-01-24 10:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
Joakim Hove <joakim.hove@phys.ntnu.no> writes:
>> What technique do people use to open these nasty word *.doc files?
>> I mean besides threatening to shoot the sender...
>
>
> On Linux I use the program antiword:
> <URL:http://www.winfield.demon.nl/> which aI reckon better than
> catdoc.
With antiword installed and /etc/mailcap set like this:
application/msword; /usr/local/bin/antiword %s
I should be able to just hit <RET> on the part and see it right?
(Even without word-lisp.el installed ... right?)
I get this message instead of any view:
Viewing with /usr/local/bin/antiword %s
Displaying /usr/local/bin/antiword /tmp/emm.234146QP/containers.doc..
I can go to tmp and view them with antiword..
With word-lisp.el installed I still get a file in /tmp but no view in
my buffer.
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* Re: What view for these nasty word *.doc files
2002-01-24 10:11 ` Harry Putnam
@ 2002-01-24 10:34 ` Joakim Hove
2002-01-24 17:35 ` Harry Putnam
2002-01-24 10:35 ` Harry Putnam
` (2 subsequent siblings)
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From: Joakim Hove @ 2002-01-24 10:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
Thanks for your reply,
> I should be able to just hit <RET> on the part and see it right?
> (Even without word-lisp.el installed ... right?)
ehh - no. That would of course have been the best solution, and
probably quite simple to implement. Point is that the word-lisp
solution is written to view doc-files which I have in my own
filesystem, i.e. not attachements.
> Displaying /usr/local/bin/antiword /tmp/emm.234146QP/containers.doc..
So what I do is to:
1. Save the doc-file to a doc file in my own home directory with "o".
2. Open this doc-file with M-x load-word-file
But I absolutely agree that writing a small wrapper to combine to the
two when treating attatchements would be wise.
If you could try my prcedure listed above, and then give a new opinion
of word-lisp I would be very grateful.
Regards
Joakim Hove
--
==== Joakim Hove www.phys.ntnu.no/~hove/ =======================
|| Institutt for fysikk (735) 93637 / E3-166 | Skøyensgate 10D ||
|| N - 7491 Trondheim hove@phys.ntnu.no | N - 7030 Trondheim ||
================================================= 73 93 31 68 =========
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* Re: What view for these nasty word *.doc files
2002-01-24 10:11 ` Harry Putnam
2002-01-24 10:34 ` Joakim Hove
@ 2002-01-24 10:35 ` Harry Putnam
2002-01-24 10:42 ` Mark Trettin
2002-01-24 10:52 ` What view for these nasty word *.doc files Kai Großjohann
3 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Harry Putnam @ 2002-01-24 10:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> With antiword installed and /etc/mailcap set like this:
>
> application/msword; /usr/local/bin/antiword %s
Nevermind.... I forgot the `cmd %s ;copiousoutput' part
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* Re: What view for these nasty word *.doc files
2002-01-24 10:11 ` Harry Putnam
2002-01-24 10:34 ` Joakim Hove
2002-01-24 10:35 ` Harry Putnam
@ 2002-01-24 10:42 ` Mark Trettin
2002-01-28 7:03 ` w3m clashes with mime types (Was: Re: What view for these nasty word *.doc files) Ami Fischman
2002-01-24 10:52 ` What view for these nasty word *.doc files Kai Großjohann
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From: Mark Trettin @ 2002-01-24 10:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
* On: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 02:11:30 -0800 Harry Putnam writes:
> Joakim Hove <joakim.hove@phys.ntnu.no> writes:
[...]
>> On Linux I use the program antiword:
>> <URL:http://www.winfield.demon.nl/> which aI reckon better than
>> catdoc.
> With antiword installed and /etc/mailcap set like this:
> application/msword; /usr/local/bin/antiword %s
With:
| mark@beldin:~]> grep word .mailcap
| application/msword;antiword %s;copiousoutput
it works just fine for me (without word-lisp.el).
[...]
HTH
Mark
--
Mark Trettin · Aachen · Germany · Where is Aachen? --> N: 50°46' E: 06°05'
BOFH excuse #13:
we're waiting for [the phone company] to fix that line
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* Re: What view for these nasty word *.doc files
2002-01-24 10:11 ` Harry Putnam
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2002-01-24 10:42 ` Mark Trettin
@ 2002-01-24 10:52 ` Kai Großjohann
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From: Kai Großjohann @ 2002-01-24 10:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
> With antiword installed and /etc/mailcap set like this:
>
> application/msword; /usr/local/bin/antiword %s
>
> I should be able to just hit <RET> on the part and see it right?
Maybe you need to tack on ";copiousoutput" to the end of that line.
kai
--
Simplification good! Oversimplification bad! (Larry Wall)
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* Re: What view for these nasty word *.doc files
2002-01-24 8:32 ` Joakim Hove
2002-01-24 9:00 ` Bjørn Mork
2002-01-24 10:11 ` Harry Putnam
@ 2002-01-24 17:29 ` Harry Putnam
2 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Harry Putnam @ 2002-01-24 17:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Joakim Hove <joakim.hove@phys.ntnu.no> writes:
> Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:
>
>> What technique do people use to open these nasty word *.doc files?
>> I mean besides threatening to shoot the sender...
>
>
> On Linux I use the program antiword:
> <URL:http://www.winfield.demon.nl/> which aI reckon better than
> catdoc.
Once I added the copiousoutput part to mailcap it works nice. Thanks.
[...]
> This lisp defines two functions:
>
> load-word-file - which is used to open a word file
> load-doc-cmd - which is used on the command line, i.e.
>
> bash% emacs -f load-doc-cmd DocFile.doc
> will open fire up emacs, and then load the wordfile "DocFile.doc".
The command line technique works here and produces a nice rendition.
Am I right in thinking that load-word-file is supposed to be able to
open a *.doc file from within emacs via C-x C-f?
If so, that part doesn't work for me. Using the same emacs that
was started with:
emacs -l ~/site-lisp/word-lisp.el -f load-doc-cmd containers.doc &
To do C-x C-f containers.doc opens containers.doc with a binary mess
visible in the buffer.
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* Re: What view for these nasty word *.doc files
2002-01-24 10:34 ` Joakim Hove
@ 2002-01-24 17:35 ` Harry Putnam
0 siblings, 0 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Harry Putnam @ 2002-01-24 17:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Joakim Hove <joakim.hove@phys.ntnu.no> writes:
>
> 1. Save the doc-file to a doc file in my own home directory with "o".
> 2. Open this doc-file with M-x load-word-file
Both these techniques give a nice rendering... thanks.
Sorry about my previous post... I didn't quite get it that C-x C-f
wasn't expected to work with word-lisp.el
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* Re: What view for these nasty word *.doc files
2002-01-23 23:44 ` Henrik Enberg
2002-01-24 0:00 ` Jorge Godoy
@ 2002-01-26 16:22 ` Johan Kullstam
2002-01-26 21:29 ` Steinar Bang
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From: Johan Kullstam @ 2002-01-26 16:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
Henrik Enberg <henrik@enberg.org> writes:
> Henrik Enberg <henrik@enberg.org> writes:
>
> >From St IGNUcius himself on this very topic:
>
> Why was there a > at the beginning of this line? It wasn't quoted.
it's a workaround of mailbox format braindamage.
i didn't get such a ">", but then i am using qmail, maildir and nnml.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[kullstam@mediaone.net]
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* Re: What view for these nasty word *.doc files
2002-01-26 16:22 ` Johan Kullstam
@ 2002-01-26 21:29 ` Steinar Bang
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From: Steinar Bang @ 2002-01-26 21:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> "Johan Kullstam" <kullstam@ne.mediaone.net>:
> i didn't get such a ">", but then i am using qmail, maildir and nnml.
I got one on exim, cyrus imapd, nnimap, which shouldn't need it, hm...
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* Re: What view for these nasty word *.doc files
2002-01-24 9:00 ` Bjørn Mork
@ 2002-01-26 21:55 ` Steinar Bang
2002-01-26 22:34 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Steinar Bang @ 2002-01-26 21:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> Bjørn Mork <bmork@dod.no>:
> Joakim Hove <joakim.hove@phys.ntnu.no> writes:
>> On Linux I use the program antiword:
>> <URL:http://www.winfield.demon.nl/> which aI reckon better than
>> catdoc.
> You are right. Looks like it does a better job extracting things like
> chapter numbering, indexes and tables.
On debian, installation consisted of
apt-get install antiword
The version on debian testing (intel architecture), was only 0.31,
though. The newest versio on the home page is 0.31.
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* Re: What view for these nasty word *.doc files
2002-01-26 21:55 ` Steinar Bang
@ 2002-01-26 22:34 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2002-01-27 9:40 ` Steinar Bang
0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2002-01-26 22:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> writes:
> The version on debian testing (intel architecture), was only 0.31,
> though. The newest versio on the home page is 0.31.
Yeah; they're so out of date, those Debian guys. :-)
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: What view for these nasty word *.doc files
2002-01-26 22:34 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2002-01-27 9:40 ` Steinar Bang
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From: Steinar Bang @ 2002-01-27 9:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>:
> Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> writes:
>> The version on debian testing (intel architecture), was only 0.31,
>> though. The newest versio on the home page is 0.31.
> Yeah; they're so out of date, those Debian guys. :-)
I meant to say: the newest version on the home page is 0.32.
Sometimes, not even Gnus' queueing of outgoing messages can save me
from myself. :-)
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* w3m clashes with mime types (Was: Re: What view for these nasty word *.doc files)
2002-01-24 10:42 ` Mark Trettin
@ 2002-01-28 7:03 ` Ami Fischman
2002-01-28 7:21 ` Ami Fischman
2002-01-28 12:44 ` w3m clashes with mime types Katsumi Yamaoka
0 siblings, 2 replies; 28+ messages in thread
From: Ami Fischman @ 2002-01-28 7:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
So, in trying to make gnus aware of antiword (in my ~/.mailcap file), I came
across the following problem: if I receive a message created by outlook (for
example), that has a MIME part for the text version of the message, a MIME
part for the HTML version, and a MIME part for a word document attachment,
the article will be buttonized correctly (I get a [2. wordfilename.doc ...]
type thing), but I cannot click on this button. Turns out that w3m (which I
use to format html emails, and I really like for that purpose) is "taking
over" somehow, and is complaining that the doc attachment isn't a URL. Is
there some way to tell w3m to leave buttons gnus makes alone?
BTW, pretty damn sweet how convinient the antiword inclusion is. Kudos!
--
Ami Fischman
usenet@fischman.org
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* Re: w3m clashes with mime types (Was: Re: What view for these nasty word *.doc files)
2002-01-28 7:03 ` w3m clashes with mime types (Was: Re: What view for these nasty word *.doc files) Ami Fischman
@ 2002-01-28 7:21 ` Ami Fischman
2002-01-28 12:44 ` w3m clashes with mime types Katsumi Yamaoka
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From: Ami Fischman @ 2002-01-28 7:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
Well, in random surfing, I came across the variable
mm-discouraged-alternatives and simply discouraging html parts suffices for
me.
Now if only article cancellation worked on this list...;)
--
Ami Fischman
usenet@fischman.org
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* Re: w3m clashes with mime types
2002-01-28 7:03 ` w3m clashes with mime types (Was: Re: What view for these nasty word *.doc files) Ami Fischman
2002-01-28 7:21 ` Ami Fischman
@ 2002-01-28 12:44 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2002-01-28 23:59 ` Daniel Pittman
1 sibling, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Katsumi Yamaoka @ 2002-01-28 12:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-w3m
>>>>> In <81lmejyn21.fsf_-_@zion.bpnetworks.com>
>>>>> Ami Fischman <usenet@fischman.org> wrote:
> So, in trying to make gnus aware of antiword (in my ~/.mailcap file), I came
> across the following problem: if I receive a message created by outlook (for
> example), that has a MIME part for the text version of the message, a MIME
> part for the HTML version, and a MIME part for a word document attachment,
> the article will be buttonized correctly (I get a [2. wordfilename.doc ...]
> type thing), but I cannot click on this button.
Probably, you can fix this temporally by evaluating the
following expression in the article buffer:
(setq mm-w3m-minor-mode nil)
When using emacs-w3m in the article buffer, the keymap for
emacs-w3m will be activated as a minor-mode-map, and it will
override the original keymap. Should we make it customizable
whether to allow a minor-mode-map for emacs-w3m? Or, does
anyone have much better ideas?
--
Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org>
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* Re: w3m clashes with mime types
2002-01-28 12:44 ` w3m clashes with mime types Katsumi Yamaoka
@ 2002-01-28 23:59 ` Daniel Pittman
2002-01-29 9:47 ` Kai Großjohann
0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Pittman @ 2002-01-28 23:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:
>>>>>> In <81lmejyn21.fsf_-_@zion.bpnetworks.com>
>>>>>> Ami Fischman <usenet@fischman.org> wrote:
>
>> So, in trying to make gnus aware of antiword (in my ~/.mailcap file),
>> I came across the following problem: if I receive a message created
>> by outlook (for example), that has a MIME part for the text version
>> of the message, a MIME part for the HTML version, and a MIME part for
>> a word document attachment, the article will be buttonized correctly
>> (I get a [2. wordfilename.doc ...] type thing), but I cannot click on
>> this button.
>
> Probably, you can fix this temporally by evaluating the
> following expression in the article buffer:
>
> (setq mm-w3m-minor-mode nil)
>
> When using emacs-w3m in the article buffer, the keymap for
> emacs-w3m will be activated as a minor-mode-map, and it will
> override the original keymap.
Ack. That's bad.
> Should we make it customizable whether to allow a minor-mode-map for
> emacs-w3m? Or, does anyone have much better ideas?
I can't think of anything better than making it a user option, unless we
want to construct a custom keymap that inherits both the Article and w3m
keymaps.[1]
It should default to *OFF*, as well, so that the standard Gnus bindings
are active, not the w3m ones.
Daniel
Footnotes:
[1] I have /no/ idea if this is even remotely possible. :)
--
Art is moral passion married to entertainment. Moral passion
without entertainment is propaganda, and entertainment without
moral passion is television.
-- Rita Mae Brown
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* Re: w3m clashes with mime types
2002-01-28 23:59 ` Daniel Pittman
@ 2002-01-29 9:47 ` Kai Großjohann
2002-01-29 10:47 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
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From: Kai Großjohann @ 2002-01-29 9:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net> writes:
> I can't think of anything better than making it a user option, unless we
> want to construct a custom keymap that inherits both the Article and w3m
> keymaps.[1]
> [...]
> Footnotes: [1] I have /no/ idea if this is even remotely
> possible. :)
One of the modes could have a minor-mode variant.
kai
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* Re: w3m clashes with mime types
2002-01-29 9:47 ` Kai Großjohann
@ 2002-01-29 10:47 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
2002-01-29 12:02 ` Daniel Pittman
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From: Katsumi Yamaoka @ 2002-01-29 10:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
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>>>>> In <vafhep5wkso.fsf@INBOX.auto.gnus.tok.lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de>
>>>>> Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Gro^[.A^[N_johann) wrote:
> Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net> writes:
>> I can't think of anything better than making it a user option, unless we
>> want to construct a custom keymap that inherits both the Article and w3m
>> keymaps.[1]
>> [...]
>> Footnotes: [1] I have /no/ idea if this is even remotely
>> possible. :)
> One of the modes could have a minor-mode variant.
There is a hint in the file emacs-w3m/mime-w3m.el that using
`local-map' property to bind keys on the inlined text/html part
like:
(w3m-region (point-min) (point-max))
(apply 'put-text-property (point-min) (point-max)
(gnus-local-map-property mm-w3m-mode-map))
I will set to work.
--
Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka@jpl.org>
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* Re: w3m clashes with mime types
2002-01-29 10:47 ` Katsumi Yamaoka
@ 2002-01-29 12:02 ` Daniel Pittman
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From: Daniel Pittman @ 2002-01-29 12:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:
>>>>>> In <vafhep5wkso.fsf@INBOX.auto.gnus.tok.lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de>
>>>>>> Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) wrote:
>
>> Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net> writes:
>
>>> I can't think of anything better than making it a user option,
>>> unless we want to construct a custom keymap that inherits both the
>>> Article and w3m keymaps.[1] [...] Footnotes: [1] I have /no/ idea if
>>> this is even remotely possible. :)
>
>> One of the modes could have a minor-mode variant.
>
> There is a hint in the file emacs-w3m/mime-w3m.el that using
> `local-map' property to bind keys on the inlined text/html part
> like:
>
> (w3m-region (point-min) (point-max))
> (apply 'put-text-property (point-min) (point-max)
> (gnus-local-map-property mm-w3m-mode-map))
>
> I will set to work.
I should note that, having actually tried to deal with the content of a
W3M rendered HTML mail[1], the rebinding of the cursor keys was a *real*
pain in the neck.
So.... it would be great to be able to disable those, and probably other
standard motion keys, as far as I am concerned.
Er, assuming you get time to do so, of course. :)
Daniel
Footnotes:
[1] Which was *so* beautifully fast, it was wonderful.
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believe tradition will survive to enshrine them as the wild and crazy geniuses
who destroyed it.
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