From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/52262 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Marshall Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: [OT] Of the meaning of GNUS Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 19:18:26 +0100 Organization: The first against the wall Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <65orpvqy.fsf@asfast.com> <84n0i2etnm.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> Reply-To: robert@chezmarshall.freeserve.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052079889 19476 80.91.224.249 (4 May 2003 20:24:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 20:24:49 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M805@lists.math.uh.edu Sun May 04 22:24:47 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19CQ2R-00053u-00 for ; Sun, 04 May 2003 22:24:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19CQ3c-0001Ai-00; Sun, 04 May 2003 15:26:00 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19CQ3X-0001Ad-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 04 May 2003 15:25:56 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 68615 invoked by alias); 4 May 2003 20:25:55 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 68610 invoked from network); 4 May 2003 20:25:55 -0000 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (80.91.224.244) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 4 May 2003 20:25:55 -0000 Original-Received: from news by quimby.gnus.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19CQ4u-0007yd-00 for ; Sun, 04 May 2003 22:27:20 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: jailhouse.chezmarshall.freeserve.co.uk!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 30 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: m237-mp1.cvx5-c.man.dial.ntli.net Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1052080040 30664 213.104.252.237 (4 May 2003 20:27:20 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 May 2003 20:27:20 GMT In-Reply-To: (Lloyd Zusman's message of "Sun, 04 May 2003 10:20:46 -0400") X-Home-Page: http://www.chezmarshall.freeserve.co.uk Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAwAgMAAAAeFdAIAAAADFBMVEUqGR7JnaKiUnZ2anJy 0M2/AAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlwSFlzAAAuHwAALh8BeO6BXwAAAAd0SU1FB9MEFBU0DNr0fG4A AAFpSURBVHjaXY+xSwJRHMd/ehgimVNLUxhG3BCRXE1Sf0KQv7s8FKeLvKUGhcCyIIJ4UE1XtMmF cT2joVCaPFuLxttaW1yUQlqMer7zLHrL+7wP3/d73wfwbzm/iMvuLvQE3HIxkh9iIOMrdFyUED6b LiaUpnc9kB1OSnTA08LHXxy8AJF2fG6Az3UnP8CROnp1rnKaN1k8Q6O441oDNbQ5Tqwjpjb7Eb9o IOo2T0cvNEzdc/QD1WSbN54mjYra4FhBvFbsHqNJCXG1ay8CBCGGWDJOmY1CCDH99j3KP4SYdZb4 MB+i7IyBZ5NuszCz2+BZ5dVFlsXk/hDPLQZTILCSKmF6/jHbZVgtA8TbKRbYoCwR7GIuU6CUsgQa ew8yFXULwrL09K6KlF5CLL1wk2ixAIXxFfkgZJ7QFgVJUSnpyxbUSqoF7EAIHBbXrNm+NaH2os/4 RWJZFI6/9PIdvSXMCrtmmRyZVYv+ACI4jf1k2QdtAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC User-Agent: Gnus/5.09002 (Oort Gnus v0.20) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:M2RtlDFMNHAewYaxyBHJl/Sfxxs= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52262 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52262 On Sun, 04 May 2003, Lloyd Zusman wrote: > kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (Kai Großjohann) writes: > >> Lloyd Zusman writes: >> >>> In English, the word "gnu" (meaning "wildebeest") can be >>> pronounced with a silent "g", so that it sounds exactly the same >>> as "new". Therefore, using that convention, "Gnus" would be >>> pronounced like "news". Since Gnus was originally created as a >>> usenet newsreader, that's a very appropriate name. >> >> I understand that the G is not silent, says Lars. > > Check "gnu" in an English dictionary. I looked in several, and in > all cases, the "g" is silent. The first pronunciation is "noo", and > the second one is "nyoo" (as if the "gn" were reversed to "ng", and > the "g" turned into a glide). > Not in my (english) English dictionary it isn't - well it has 'nu or (humorous) g'nu'! I've always pronounced it in the second form but maybe there was too much of an influence of Flanders and Swann in my formative years. Maybe it's a transatlantic problem? Robert -- Take me to the world A world that smiles With streets instead of aisles