From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/43018 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Make nndrafts quit being overly helpful Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 22:05:26 -0800 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035178177 15327 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 05:29:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 05:29:37 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 20639 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2002 06:12:48 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 9 Feb 2002 06:12:48 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16ZQjG-0000M8-00; Sat, 09 Feb 2002 00:11:18 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sat, 09 Feb 2002 00:11:14 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA20239 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2002 00:11:00 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 20585 invoked by alias); 9 Feb 2002 06:10:57 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 20580 invoked from network); 9 Feb 2002 06:10:56 -0000 Original-Received: from smtp.newsguy.com (HELO newsguy.com) (209.155.56.71) by gnus.org with SMTP; 9 Feb 2002 06:10:56 -0000 Original-Received: from reader.local.lan (adsl-66.51.210.228.dslextreme.com [66.51.210.228]) by newsguy.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA10250 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 22:10:27 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.local.lan (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g196AP925625; Fri, 8 Feb 2002 22:10:25 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: reader.local.lan: reader set sender to reader@newsguy.com using -f Original-To: User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) Emacs/21.1.80 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) Original-Lines: 40 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:43018 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:43018 A couple of months or so ago there were some changes made to nndrafts that causes a behavior that is irritating, but more over I think it is wrong behavior as well. For several years now I've been using a technique to edit and save messages or several messages by using either `e' or in the case of a thread I might use S O m (gnus-uu-digest-mail-forward) to first create a sort of digest. Then edit the whole thing. I have a home made function I then invoke that sends the edited message where ever I want it on my groups. I then kill the edit buffer. My function is hooked into all edit modes so I can invoke it in any composition or edit buffer. For some time now, if the editing lasts long enough for auto save to happen then the killed buffer (`S O m' `F' `R' but not `e') reappears in nndrafts. This can also happen if you start a composition then decide to trash it. It might show up in nndrafts causing confusion as to what the game plan was. A purposely killed buffer should *NOT* reappear in nndrafts. No killed or otherwise crashed, demised, curtailed or eschewed buffer should. Only drafts from either C-x C-s or preferable C-x C-d should go there. Nothing else. After all it is a `drafts' group. Not a recovery, crash, recycle, second chance, data recovery group. Or AA clinic. :-) Maybe it is difficult to tell the difference between a willfully killed and crashed buffer, but in fact neither should be going to drafts. Do we need an nnrecover or nnMSrecyle_bin...? Seriously, that may be a good thing to have. But it should not be drafts. Can I do something locally to control this? I mean, short of major coding.