From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/45660 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: rintaman@cs.Helsinki.FI (Janne =?iso-8859-1?q?Rinta-M=E4nty?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: group and topic parameters (was: nnimap against Cyrus imapd just stopped working) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 03:49:55 +0300 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <87ofdg8xxt.fsf@doohan.bang.priv.no> <87k7o48wuf.fsf@doohan.bang.priv.no> <87bs9g8w35.fsf@doohan.bang.priv.no> <87k7o4mvar.fsf@doohan.bang.priv.no> <87y9cjbzo0.fsf@home.lan> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1026435065 14899 127.0.0.1 (12 Jul 2002 00:51:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:51:05 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17SoeG-0003sC-00 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 02:51:04 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17Sodr-0005Zr-00; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:50:39 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:51:03 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA29990 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:50:46 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 9709 invoked by alias); 12 Jul 2002 00:50:18 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 9704 invoked from network); 12 Jul 2002 00:50:18 -0000 Original-Received: from porsta.cs.helsinki.fi (root@128.214.48.124) by gnus.org with SMTP; 12 Jul 2002 00:50:18 -0000 Original-Received: from cdr (koggi.in.helsinki.fi [128.214.189.9]) by porsta.cs.Helsinki.FI (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6C0o1k26164 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 03:50:14 +0300 Original-Received: by cdr via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.102) for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 12 Jul 2002 03:49:57 +0300 (EEST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: (Reiner Steib's message of "Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:34:43 +0200") Original-Lines: 42 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) Emacs/21.1 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45660 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:45660 Reiner Steib 2002-07-11T18:34:43Z: > On Thu, Jul 11 2002, Kai Großjohann wrote: >> Reiner Steib <4uce.02.r.steib@gmx.net> writes: >>> - Setting topic parameters via `gnus-parameters'. [...] I think it would be clearer to have a different alist for topics. >> Hm. If you find somebody to write it :-) > That would be nice to have. IMHO having a variable for group > parameters, but none for topic parameters is a somehow inconsistent. Me too! That somebody who writes it might also want to answer the question in namely, is the current precedence of parameters good or not. Now it is 1. group parameters 2. topic parameters 3. gnus-parameters Where would the new gnus-topic-parameters (or something) go? I had a look at this in January and this became the biggest problem. IIRC it would be very easy to get the new topic parameter variable between 2 and 3. But then the precedence order of group and topic parameters in variables would be different from the "real" parameters. It would be a mess when moving the "real" parameters to .gnus. IMHO a more natural (and consistent with the manual) order would be 1. group parameters 2. gnus-parameters 3. topic parameters and the gnus-topic-parameters-to-be variable would be number 4. -- Janne Rinta-Mänty