From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/8846 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steven L Baur Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: gnus-setup not being required? Date: 19 Nov 1996 10:54:44 -0800 Sender: steve@deanna.miranova.com Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.94) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035148958 14783 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 21:22:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:22:38 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 19729 invoked from smtpd); 19 Nov 1996 19:10:48 -0000 Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@129.240.64.2) by deanna.miranova.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 1996 19:10:46 -0000 Original-Received: from deanna.miranova.com (qmailr@deanna.miranova.com [206.190.83.1]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Tue, 19 Nov 1996 19:52:18 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 19278 invoked by uid 501); 19 Nov 1996 18:54:45 -0000 Original-To: ding@ifi.uio.no X-Url: http://www.miranova.com/%7Esteve/ Mail-Copies-To: never X-Face: #!T9!#9s-3o8)*uHlX{Ug[xW7E7Wr!*L46-OxqMu\xz23v|R9q}lH?cRS{rCNe^'[`^sr5" f8*@r4ipO6Jl!:Ccqp:9I OSS'2{-)-4wBnVeg0S\O4Al@)uC[pD|+ In-Reply-To: Sean Lynch's message of 19 Nov 1996 09:43:49 -0800 Original-Lines: 39 X-Mailer: Red Gnus v0.63/XEmacs 19.15 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:8846 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:8846 >>>>> "Sean" == Sean Lynch writes: Sean> It doesn't look like gnus-setup is being required anywhere. Am Sean> I supposed to require this myself in .gnus.el? It is too late to load it in .gnus.el. It is intended to be loaded in .emacs or default.el with site-wide policy (and it's one of those files that should be explicitly loaded as a .el, and not bytecompiled). Sean> I noticed this because when I stopped manually setting Sean> message-cite-function, it was being set to Sean> message-cite-original, even though from gnus-setup.el, which I Sean> assumed was being loaded, it definitely should have been set to Sean> sc-cite-original. Sean> I'm sure I'm just missing something here. Someone hand me a clue. Gnus-setup.el is provided as a more convenient way to set up your environment before you load Gnus. It is especially helpful if you are using a version of Gnus not included with your Emacs. It's not clear whether there is any usefulness left to it. For the typical user, using components only in emacs, there's not much of a point to using it. The emacs distribution should already have things set up properly. Other users with more sophisticated requirements (multiple versions of Gnus for Emacs *and* XEmacs, tm, mailcrypt, etc.) can easily take care of themselves. My current initialization of Gnus & company using gnus-setup.el requires about as much setup code as is already in gnus-setup (but I have a far from typical setup regularly using 4 different emacsen). HTH -- steve@miranova.com baur Unsolicited commercial e-mail will be billed at $250/message. "Bill Clinton is a bore. He doesn't have a creative bone in his body." -- David Brinkley