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From: Steven L Baur <steve@miranova.com>
Subject: Re: Q: Cross posted articles
Date: 23 Feb 1996 14:45:02 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m23f818xw1.fsf@deanna.miranova.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Mark Borges's message of 23 Feb 1996 12:30:08 -0800

>>>>> "mb" == Mark Borges <mdb@cdc.noaa.gov> writes:

>>> Christopher Davis(ckd) wrote:

ckd> Try this trick:
ckd> Telnet to the news server's nntp port.
ckd> Type "list overview.fmt".

ckd> See if it includes a line "Xref:full".
ckd> It probably doesn't.

mb> good guess!

mb> mine doesn't (see below). Is this one of those things I "should
mb> complain bitterly to the NetNews administrators" about?

Yes.  You can be thankful you're running a real INN server though.
The one from Netscape has some horrible bugs in it that they refuse to
fix.

ckd> (PS to Lars: maybe a Red Gnus feature?  M-x gnus-check-for-evil-nov ? :)

mb> Does this mean my NOV is eVIl? (I don't really understand the full
mb> repercussions, apart from the obvious that scoring on Xref won't
mb> work). Would I be better served by setting g-n-i-e:

gnus-nov-is-evil is overkill.  You could say gnus-nov-is-evil is evil,
since setting it disables use of overview with nnml as well.  Setting
nntp-nov-is-evil is sufficient.

Speaking for myself, I have to have crossposts killed once read.
Reading news is too annoying without it.  The main thing you lose is
stuff like gnus-fetch-old-headers which doesn't work without NOV.

I started on a workaround patch to use XHDR[*] to get Xref:, but it got
totally broken when Lars overhauled nntp.el, and I haven't gotten back
to it.

[*]You get overview info from an INN server by issuing the command
XOVER from-to
If this is missing Xref: data, it may be obtained by issuing the command
XHDR XREF from-to
and then grafting the results onto the data obtained from XOVER to get
the same effect.

-- 
steve@miranova.com baur
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  reply	other threads:[~1996-02-23 22:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <v0wwx5zkwpt.fsf@corinth.cs.uni-magdeburg.de>
     [not found] ` <w8sivhh6570.fsf@aegir.ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]   ` <x43f869lcc.fsf@fly.cnuce.cnr.it>
     [not found]     ` <w47mxddh2e.fsf@loiosh.kei.com>
1996-02-23 20:30       ` Mark Borges
1996-02-23 22:45         ` Steven L Baur [this message]
1996-02-24  7:44         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen

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