From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/5254 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steven L Baur Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Q: Cross posted articles Date: 23 Feb 1996 14:45:02 -0800 Organization: Miranova Systems, Inc. Sender: steve@miranova.com Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.43) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035145885 32264 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 20:31:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:31:25 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: ding-request@ifi.uio.no Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by deanna.miranova.com (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA11242 for ; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 15:20:52 -0800 Original-Received: from deanna.miranova.com (steve@miranova.com [204.212.162.100]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 23:45:28 +0100 Original-Received: (from steve@localhost) by deanna.miranova.com (8.7.3/8.6.9) id OAA10622; Fri, 23 Feb 1996 14:45:03 -0800 Original-To: ding@ifi.uio.no X-Url: http://www.miranova.com/%7Esteve/ In-Reply-To: Mark Borges's message of 23 Feb 1996 12:30:08 -0800 Original-Lines: 50 X-Mailer: September Gnus v0.41/XEmacs 19.13 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:5254 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:5254 >>>>> "mb" == Mark Borges writes: >>> Christopher Davis(ckd) wrote: ckd> Try this trick: ckd> Telnet to the news server's nntp port. ckd> Type "list overview.fmt". ckd> See if it includes a line "Xref:full". ckd> It probably doesn't. mb> good guess! mb> mine doesn't (see below). Is this one of those things I "should mb> complain bitterly to the NetNews administrators" about? Yes. You can be thankful you're running a real INN server though. The one from Netscape has some horrible bugs in it that they refuse to fix. ckd> (PS to Lars: maybe a Red Gnus feature? M-x gnus-check-for-evil-nov ? :) mb> Does this mean my NOV is eVIl? (I don't really understand the full mb> repercussions, apart from the obvious that scoring on Xref won't mb> work). Would I be better served by setting g-n-i-e: gnus-nov-is-evil is overkill. You could say gnus-nov-is-evil is evil, since setting it disables use of overview with nnml as well. Setting nntp-nov-is-evil is sufficient. Speaking for myself, I have to have crossposts killed once read. Reading news is too annoying without it. The main thing you lose is stuff like gnus-fetch-old-headers which doesn't work without NOV. I started on a workaround patch to use XHDR[*] to get Xref:, but it got totally broken when Lars overhauled nntp.el, and I haven't gotten back to it. [*]You get overview info from an INN server by issuing the command XOVER from-to If this is missing Xref: data, it may be obtained by issuing the command XHDR XREF from-to and then grafting the results onto the data obtained from XOVER to get the same effect. -- steve@miranova.com baur Unsolicited commercial e-mail will be proofread for $250/hour. Andrea Seastrand: For your vote on the Telecom bill, I will vote for anyone except you in November.