From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/3955 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: steve@miranova.com (Steven L. Baur) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus5, procmail, and reading mail lists. Date: 13 Nov 1995 17:43:31 -0800 Organization: Miranova Systems, Inc. Sender: steve@miranova.com Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035144771 28083 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 20:12:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:12:51 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: ding-request@ifi.uio.no Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by miranova.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA15041 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 19:39:31 -0800 Original-Received: from miranova.com (steve@miranova.com [204.212.162.100]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Tue, 14 Nov 1995 02:43:52 +0100 Original-Received: (from steve@localhost) by miranova.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id RAA14531; Mon, 13 Nov 1995 17:43:35 -0800 Original-To: ding@ifi.uio.no X-Url: http://www.miranova.com/%7Esteve/ In-Reply-To: Joe Hildebrand's message of 13 Nov 1995 14:43:23 -0800 Original-Lines: 42 X-Mailer: September Gnus v0.12 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:3955 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:3955 >>>>> "Joe" == Joe Hildebrand writes: >>>>> "Steven" == Steven L Baur writes: Steven> If you are going to use Gnus expiration, it is important Steven> to also set: (setq nnmail-keep-last-article t) Joe> I thought this was only if procmail was delivering directly Joe> to the nnm[lh] directory. You're correct. Steven> If you are going to generate NOV databases out of Steven> procmail, you will have to deal with the same locking Steven> issues you face with the spool files, with the added Steven> nicety that while the NOV database is being updated Gnus Steven> must be locked out too. I don't think anybody is doing it Steven> this way. Joe> Anymore. Some people may still be using add-active-nov. When we had a similar discussion last month, something about this was mentioned, but it went over my head. I just reread the thread, and saw again the comments about a procmail NOV hack, which I assume add-active-nov is referring to. I don't see a reference to it in either the Gnus, XEmacs lisp source, nor procmail 3.10 source (or dejanews for that matter). Steven> I had previously been using the pattern: Steven> ^TOding(-request)? This doesn't work 100% mainly due to Steven> messages being Cc:'ed to you and the mailing list. Joe> procmailrc(5) says: ... Joe> which should catch CCs. Exactly. You end up with two messages with identical message-ids going into the same nnml folder, one of which is now in a Gnus black hole, and cannot be referenced reasonably, or two identical messages going into the hyperarchive. -- steve@miranova.com baur