From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/85320 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Davis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail? Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 07:49:21 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87egs952jy.fsf@micropit.roche-blanche.homenet.org> <8761dl3xth.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418129389 570 80.91.229.3 (9 Dec 2014 12:49:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 12:49:49 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M33564@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Dec 09 13:49:43 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XyKEY-0005n9-GJ for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:49:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1XyKEM-0003xV-K4; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 06:49:30 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1XyKEL-0003xQ-QI for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 06:49:29 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1XyKEK-00008Y-Pd for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 06:49:29 -0600 Original-Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XyKEJ-0000tc-42 for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:49:27 +0100 Original-Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id D675A20BA4 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2014 07:49:22 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 09 Dec 2014 07:49:22 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=x-sasl-enc:from:to:subject:references :date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s= smtpout; bh=W0prYqetBP+8Hl4xsBTE7oYxKTU=; b=VjeEVF7lNqSY+CRT1eCs GNbkA0t35umJpwiMYfi5W3ptJ0GBe6wIjJCk03ozCDIULHn5pZP9LP4/HXrbj0hA +96l9afNI7Axzdfi527fTvbdbLIXRWwrNMj91+/UFG3HYjcw3E+NBleQHGoFsKln srRowbZR3Nb7Vm0fIe021fs= X-Sasl-enc: xORxBa2aZNRnl1kk8VFjR27bUXReUeB6BbMJY8ihB7nT 1418129362 Original-Received: from PFDStudio-Air.home (unknown [173.76.32.54]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 8C242C00286; Tue, 9 Dec 2014 07:49:22 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <8761dl3xth.fsf@pinto.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> (Eric S. Fraga's message of "Tue, 9 Dec 2014 10:46:34 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (darwin) X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:85320 Archived-At: Thanks very much for all the excellent suggestions. However, I think perhaps I need to clarify what I'm missing. 1) Deleting In mutt, when I'm looking at a message with what mutt calls the "index" at the top, and "pager" at the bottom, analagous to gnus' Summary and Article buffers, I can, with a single keystroke 1) move to and read the next message, or 2) move to and read the next unread message, or 3) delete the current message, and move to and read the next message. I want to be able to either save or delete (expire) a message and open the next one automatically. Frankly, it seems weird to me that gnus moves the cursor in the Summary buffer to the next message, but still displays the message I just expired in the Article buffer. If I'm on the last message in the mutt index and I delete that, mutt simply closes the 'pager' view and just displays the index view for the whole screen. 2) Opening a group/mailbox In mutt, when I open a mailbox (group), I see an index of all the messages in the mailbox, with the cursor positioned at the first unread, if any. I like that, but I'd settle for seeing all of the threads containing any unread messages. As I understand it, gnus-fetch-old-headers is supposed to do that, but I haven't found a way to make it work, at least with Fastmail.fm IMAP. For extra credit, in mutt's index (Summar) view, I can very easily filter the list of messages with a few keystrokes. For instance, if I type lpfd, I'll see just a list of messages whose headers contain "pfd". Of course, this is not especially useful in gnus since the Summary buffer doesn't show me a long list of earlier messages, but if I could make that happen, it would be very useful. Thanks again! -pd