From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/79896 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Wiegley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Web-based refer article methods not working Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 20:19:31 -0500 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1315704730 418 80.91.229.12 (11 Sep 2011 01:32:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 01:32:10 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M28190@lists.math.uh.edu Sun Sep 11 03:32:07 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2Yty-00075B-Cs for ding-account@gmane.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 03:32:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1R2Yto-00018F-Cz; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 20:31:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1R2Ytn-000186-CW for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 20:31:55 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R2Ytm-0007S3-Ch for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 10 Sep 2011 20:31:55 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R2Ytk-00005e-2N for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 03:31:52 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2Ytj-00071r-Hf for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 03:31:51 +0200 Original-Received: from c-98-215-105-167.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([98.215.105.167]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 03:31:51 +0200 Original-Received: from jwiegley by c-98-215-105-167.hsd1.il.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 03:31:51 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 55 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-98-215-105-167.hsd1.il.comcast.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/23.3 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:diDGhImhYghge3zMqtDahYDLI2I= X-Spam-Score: -4.5 (----) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:79896 Archived-At: I have my gnus-refer-article-method set as follows: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- (current (nnir "LocalNews") (nnweb "gmane" (nnweb-type gmane)) (nnweb "refer" (nnweb-type google))) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Now, "current" and "nnir" lookups work as expected. But when I try to find the parent of an article which I don't have in my Leafnode spool -- but which I know for certain is either in Gmane or Google Groups -- it always fails. The failure is pretty silent, too. Here's what I'm seeing: 1. I enter the group gnu.emacs.help using C-u RET, so that it reads in all the artcles I have. 2. I press / w until all limits are popped. 3. I press C-c C-s C-d to sort by date, and pick the oldest article which is a reply to something. The message in question is "", subject "Re: String replace with lisp code". This message has only one reference: "". 4. I type ^. It says it's contacting Gmane. No error is reported. 5. It adds a message to my summary buffer that looks like this: R nil nobody (none) In the *Article* buffer, I still see the original message. 6. What just happened? It didn't find the message in Gmane, but didn't tell me that; it didn't try to use Google, and it's showing me the same message as before, just with a bogus message now added to my summary buffer. 7. Then I edited gnus-refer-article-method to remove the gmane lookup, so it uses Google. It still can't find the message. Strangely, I can't lookup the referenced Message-Id via Google Groups Advanced Search either, although I can lookup the article that I do have, and see that it does have a parent in Google Groups. So, I have yet to find a case where the nnweb lookup actually works. Also, using G w to make an nnweb group never works either, no matter whether I select gmane or google, and no matter what I type in for the search string. Thanks, John