From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/39089 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lloyd Zusman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Changed criteria for deciding if articles have been read? Date: 01 Oct 2001 18:30:56 -0400 Organization: FreeBSD/Linux Hippopotamus Preserve Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035174852 26007 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:34:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:34:12 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 27068 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2001 22:32:14 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 1 Oct 2001 22:32:14 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 15oBb1-000654-00; Mon, 01 Oct 2001 17:31:31 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 01 Oct 2001 17:31:08 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA22293 for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2001 17:30:58 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 27052 invoked by alias); 1 Oct 2001 22:31:15 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 27047 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2001 22:31:14 -0000 Original-Received: from home.acholado.net (216.27.138.216) by gnus.org with SMTP; 1 Oct 2001 22:31:14 -0000 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 501) by home.acholado.net with local; Mon, 01 Oct 2001 18:30:56 -0400 Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: "!ga1s|?LNLE3MeeeEYs(%LIl9q[xV9!j4#xf4!**BFW_ihlOb;:Slb>)vy>CJM writes: > Simon Josefsson writes: > >> [ ... ] > > After running the new version, no `.mrk/.marks' had been created > anywhere, but I didn't do the `nnml-generate-nov-databases'. Would > I have to do that before any .mrk/.marks appear? Aha! I discovered that there *are* indeed a bunch of `.marks' files, each of which appear in their respective group directory (however, not under any directory named `.mrk'). For example, for my `gnus' nnml group, the following file exists: ~/Mail/gnus/.marks It was last created/modified on Aug. 19, which is the last time I attempted to run a new version of Oort (but I didn't continue using it, due to an unrelated problem, and I went back to the older version which is still the version I'm using now). No doubt this Aug. 19 version of Oort created these `.marks' files when it started up. The `.marks' file I mentioned above contains this data (it's all on a single line in the file, but I'm wrapping it here): ((read (1 . 26024)) (reply 24924 25041 25273 25295 25306 (25310 . 25311) 25329 25337) (tick 26017 26020)) Funny how it just _happens_ to contain the same info that `G E' shows below for the "recent Oort version" case. :) I then renamed all my `.marks' files in all of my group directories, and I once again started up the recent version of Oort. Without those old `.marks' files, the unread-ness of my articles is now once again correct. And then, after exiting the recent version of Oort, there was now a zero-length `.marks' file in that same group directory. So ... for those people who are transitioning from an older to a more recent version of Oort, and who see this same inconsistency concerning unread articles, I recommend that you search in your group directories for any `.marks' files that are laying around, and delete them. Does this solve the problem, or does it just illustrate another aspect of a bug? > Results of `G E' in older Oort version > (group buffer shows no unread messages for this group): > > ;;; Editing the group info for `nnml+email:gnus'. > ;; Type `C-c C-c' after you've finished editing. > > ("nnml+email:gnus" 2 > ((1 . 27024)) > ((reply 26994 27004) > (tick 27000 27023)) > "nnml:email" > ((to-address . "ding@gnus.org") > (to-list . "ding@gnus.org") > (total-expire . t) > (expiry-wait . 30.0))) > > Results of `G E' in very recent Oort version: > (group buffer shows 591 unread messages for this group): > > ;;; Editing the group info for `nnml+email:gnus'. > ;; Type `C-c C-c' after you've finished editing. > > ("nnml+email:gnus" 2 > ((1 . 26433)) > ((reply 24924 25041 25273 25295 25306 > (25310 . 25311) > 25329 25337) > (tick 26017 26020)) > "nnml:email" > ((to-address . "ding@gnus.org") > (to-list . "ding@gnus.org") > (total-expire . t) > (expiry-wait . 30.0))) > > > -- > Lloyd Zusman > ljz@asfast.com > > -- Lloyd Zusman ljz@asfast.com