From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/10877 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Public domain (was: timezone.el patterns in emacs 19.34) Date: 05 May 1997 08:52:33 +0200 Message-ID: References: <199705020844.EAA06520@kr-laptop.cygnus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035150676 26935 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 21:51:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 21:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by deanna.miranova.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA17309 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:28:23 -0700 Original-Received: from claymore.vcinet.com (claymore.vcinet.com [208.205.12.23]) by ifi.uio.no with SMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:09:06 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 29591 invoked by uid 504); 5 May 1997 07:20:10 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 29588 invoked from network); 5 May 1997 07:20:10 -0000 Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@129.240.64.2) by claymore.vcinet.com with SMTP; 5 May 1997 07:20:10 -0000 Original-Received: from proletcult.slip.ifi.uio.no (root@ppp11.larris.ifi.uio.no [129.240.68.111]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:22:20 +0200 Original-Received: (from larsi@localhost) by proletcult.slip.ifi.uio.no (8.8.2/8.8.2) id IAA31219; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:52:39 +0200 Mail-Copies-To: never Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: joda@pdc.kth.se's message of 05 May 1997 00:22:30 +0200 Original-Lines: 24 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.51/Emacs 19.34 X-Face: &w!^oO~dS|}-P0~ge{$c!h\ The concept `public domain' does not exist in many parts of Europe. > You can not not (double negation) have copyright to your work. If the > author is not known it is usually the one that published the work that > gets the copyright. To elaborate a bit: In Norway, for instance, there is no concept of "copyright". Instead we have something that may be translated to "originator's rights". The differences between originator's rights and Berne convention copyright is mainly that one can never lose the right to be identified as the creator of a work. I can sign over just about anything related to the usage of the work, but I'm still the originator of the work. I can't sign that over to anyone else. And there is no public domain. One consequence of this is that organizations that buy stuff like logos from artists don't own the logo outright, and don't have the right to alter a logo they've bought without the permission of the artist. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen