From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/17069 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: SL Baur Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: User interface confusion; p0.30 invokes VM? Date: 13 Sep 1998 23:31:41 -0700 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <867lz7pyla.fsf@kramer-fast.bp.aventail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035155836 31436 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 23:17:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA08451 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:33:37 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAF24278; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:04:41 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:32:08 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [209.195.19.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA26088 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:31:59 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from altair.xemacs.org (steve@altair.xemacs.org [206.190.83.19]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA08416 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 02:31:54 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from steve@localhost) by altair.xemacs.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA02245; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:31:42 -0700 Mail-Copies-To: never Original-To: ding@gnus.org X-Face: (:YAD@JS'&Kz'M}n7eX7gEvPR6U1mJ-kt;asEc2qAv;h{Yw7ckz<7+X_SYeTNAaPui:e~x$ ,A=gkt*>UPL/}\a/#C~v2%ETiAY_sx;xve0yL??JWTtX_-NUzXyP38UdW#cmN1\4(X!c3m#%IbtB-3 Z-!xpZi!`E.s{(;aP=b11"!3wQu]1j@^V|;n=B|{l writes in ding@gnus.org: > wmperry@aventail.com (William M. Perry) writes: >> And VM is not always autoloaded. Especially in Emacs and XEmacs 21.x > Unless PGnus autoloads VM on its own, I don't understand how I > inadvertently got it, because I have surely never asked for it. In XEmacs 20.4 and previous, the VM autoloads are hardcoded into loaddefs.el (a file dumped with XEmacs), so they're present whether you've deleted lisp/vm or not and regardless of whatever you have in your .emacs. In XEmacs 21.x, you have the option to not install vm at all. In my copy of XEmacs 21: (fboundp 'vm-mode) => nil