From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/65608 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sascha Wilde Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: encrypt.el in No Gnus 0.7 Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:40:44 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87zly3y4ru.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <54a15d860711071658j40e1af43r6be4fb0f44ece932@mail.gmail.com> <54a15d860711071716g76be1cc1iaa340dce27a54896@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1194604553 16030 80.91.229.12 (9 Nov 2007 10:35:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 10:35:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: miles@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Daiki Ueno" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 09 11:35:55 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IqRDP-0005je-DM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:35:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqRDD-0003AD-QF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 05:35:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IqRCk-0002a0-EM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 05:35:14 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IqRCg-0002Ww-Kw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 05:35:13 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IqRCg-0002Wr-BX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 05:35:10 -0500 Original-Received: from ns.km1136.keymachine.de ([62.141.58.119] helo=km1136.keymachine.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IqRCW-0001lp-Iq; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 05:35:00 -0500 Original-Received: from kenny.sha-bang.de (xdslct067.osnanet.de [89.166.147.67]) (authenticated bits=0) by km1136.keymachine.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id lA9AYsID003614; Fri, 9 Nov 2007 11:34:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kenny.sha-bang.de) by kenny.sha-bang.de with esmtp (Kenny MUA v.0409034.42) ID 1IqRI4-0005k0-T9; Fri, 09 Nov 2007 11:40:44 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Thu, 08 Nov 2007 08:48:30 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:82857 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:65608 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov wrote: > I'd rather get actual votes at this point than debate semantics. So, if > anyone wants to vote for or against encrypt.el, please do Then: I vote against it's inclusion. Reasons: - there is no clear indication that it provides useful features to a significant group of Emacs users - the group of people wanting to play around with cryptographic algorithms is very special and probably small - experimenting with cryptographic infrastructure (starting from algorithms over pass phrase management to IPC and memory management in cryptographic tool changes) by untrained people leads to less security and productive use of the results of such experiments should by no means be encouraged. sascha -- Sascha Wilde "If you were young again, would you start writing TeX again or would you use Microsoft Word, or another word processor?" - "I hope to die before I *have* to use Microsoft Word." -- Prof. Donald E. Knuth