From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/41941 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: rintaman@cs.Helsinki.FI (Janne =?iso-8859-1?q?Rinta-M=E4nty?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Topic and group parameters Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 19:08:31 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035177258 8772 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 05:14:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 05:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 24955 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2002 17:09:21 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 13 Jan 2002 17:09:21 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 16Po7w-0003L3-00; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 11:09:00 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 13 Jan 2002 11:08:52 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA10984 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 11:08:39 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 24939 invoked by alias); 13 Jan 2002 17:08:42 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 24934 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2002 17:08:41 -0000 Original-Received: from porsta.cs.helsinki.fi (128.214.48.124) by gnus.org with SMTP; 13 Jan 2002 17:08:41 -0000 Original-Received: from cdr (in54.in.helsinki.fi [128.214.189.54]) by porsta.cs.Helsinki.FI (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0DH8c732372 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 19:08:39 +0200 Original-Received: by cdr via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.102) for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 13 Jan 2002 19:08:32 +0200 (EET) Original-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 42 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090005 (Oort Gnus v0.05) Emacs/21.1 (i586-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:41941 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:41941 Hello, The order in which the value of a parameter is determined seems to be (strongest first): 1. group parameters 2. topic parameters (from deepest to root topic) 3. gnus-parameters (in the order of the list) ...but is it? Experiments with gcc-self (the columns are the values of gcc-self in group parameters, topic parameters and gnus-parameters ('-' means no value at all); the last column is the value seen in Gcc: when writing an article in the group (nil means no Gcc header)): group topic g-p Gcc "group" "topic" "g-p" "group" "group" nil "g-p" "group" "group" - "g-p" "group" "group" "topic" - "group" "group" "topic" nil "group" "group" nil nil "group" - "topic" "g-p" "topic" - "topic" nil "topic" nil "topic" nil nil nil "topic" - nil - "topic" - "topic" nil "topic" "g-p" "g-p" ??? - nil "g-p" "g-p" ??? nil nil "g-p" "g-p" ??? Last three values for Gcc look odd, I was expecting no Gcc header for those combinations. Also, I think that gnus-parameters should be stronger than topic parameters. The manual says in "Group parameters (of course) override topic parameters [...]", and gnus-parameters has group parameters, only in a different place than the "real" group parameters. -- Janne Rinta-Mänty