From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/57950 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jody Klymak Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: wallowing out of the spam quagmire Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 08:18:13 -0700 Organization: Ocean Mixing Group, Oregon State U. Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1087917489 22342 80.91.224.253 (22 Jun 2004 15:18:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 15:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M6491@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Jun 22 17:18:02 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Bcn2A-0006YU-00 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2004 17:18:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Bcn1v-0003GW-00; Tue, 22 Jun 2004 10:17:47 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1Bcn1o-0003GQ-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 22 Jun 2004 10:17:40 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1Bcn1n-0002or-IQ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 22 Jun 2004 10:17:39 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25ED3A003A for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2004 10:17:38 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Bcn1m-0000y7-00 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2004 17:17:38 +0200 Original-Received: from hornby.ucsd.edu ([132.239.127.107]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2004 17:17:38 +0200 Original-Received: from jklymak by hornby.ucsd.edu with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 2004 17:17:38 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 46 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: hornby.ucsd.edu X-Face: )UPEGs@hZ!Z_j0LNZv0Uu\k writes: > If I got everything right, all mails in Inbox will be checked upon > entry for spam. Any spam will be marked with $. Upon exit, all spam > (autodetected and marked by you) will be moved to Spam and all ham > (what is considered ham is decided by the ham-mark above) will be > moved to Ham. Everything that is not marked as spam neither ham will > stay in place. > > When you exit Ham and Spam, bogofilter will train on them as ham and > spam respectively. I never quite understood this "trinary" approach to spam. The setup I gave assumes a binary approach - either its spam or not. On splitting my Inbox ham -> mail/Inbox.good spam -> mail/junk I read mail in mail/Inbox.good. If somehow a spam got in there I "S-x" on the mail. My spam-exit-processor in mail/Inbox.good is set to Spam: bogofitler, so bogofilter is trained on the bad mail and then it is moved to mail/junk. I scan over mail/junk. Everything is marked as spam ("$"). If I see something that is not spam I tick it ("!") and quit the group. Bogofilter is trained on the ham and then it is moved to mail/Inbox.good. I think this is the simplest set up possible. Its how Netscape and Apple's mail works. More complicated setups occur if you want to train bogofilter (or other software) offline. i.e. you run a cron job that runs bogofilter on the contents of your "Ham" folder. i.e. you have an IMAP server where you can run bogofilter, and you run procmail over there, but you need a mechanism to communicate with it from the local machine where you run gnus. Cheers, Jody -- Jody Klymak http://opg1.ucsd.edu/~jklymak/ mailto:jklymak@ucsd.edu