From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/5580 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steven L Baur Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: "evil" nntp Date: 18 Mar 1996 13:32:33 -0800 Organization: Miranova Systems, Inc. Sender: steve@miranova.com Message-ID: References: <199603181920.WAA11231@mangal.cs.huji.ac.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.48) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035146164 778 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 20:36:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:36:04 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: ding-request@ifi.uio.no Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by deanna.miranova.com (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA13678 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 14:04:13 -0800 Original-Received: from deanna.miranova.com (steve@miranova.com [204.212.162.100]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 22:31:49 +0100 Original-Received: (from steve@localhost) by deanna.miranova.com (8.7.3/8.6.9) id NAA13231; Mon, 18 Mar 1996 13:32:35 -0800 Original-To: ding@ifi.uio.no X-Url: http://www.miranova.com/%7Esteve/ Mail-Copies-To: never In-Reply-To: Yair Friedman's message of 18 Mar 1996 11:20:24 -0800 Original-Lines: 46 X-Mailer: September Gnus v0.54/XEmacs 19.13 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:5580 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:5580 >>>>> "Yair" == Yair Friedman writes: Yair> Does anyone has experience with setting nntp-nov-is-evil to t? Yair> What exactly will I gain or lose by setting this variable? Setting this variable only makes sense if netnews is set up on your system to not provide XREF (cross reference information) in the overview files Gnus reads to build group summaries. A quick test to see if you need to use it is this (substitute your nntp server, and use the last number returned on the 211 line as the parameter to XOVER): $ telnet news.callamer.com nntp Trying 199.74.141.7... Connected to twizzler.callamer.com. Escape character is '^]'. 200 news.callamer.com InterNetNews NNRP server Netscape 1.1 951101 INN 1.4 22-Dec-93 ready (posting ok). GROUP news.answers 211 903 31117 32212 news.answers XOVER 32212 224 data follows 32212 FAQ: comp.ai.genetic part 4/6 (A Guide to Frequently Asked Questions) David.Beasley@cs.cf.ac.uk (David Beasley) Mon, 18 Mar 1996 18:58:21 GMT 71671 1503 . If your output looks like this, your newsfeed is broken. If you see a field that looks similar to an Xref: line, then your newsfeed is O.K. Assuming you have a broken newsfeed, you gain by setting nntp-nov-is-evil the ability for Gnus to mark all crossposted articles as read the first time you see them. Otherwise, every crossposted article is spam, and you see it over and over again if you also read the other groups it is crossposted to. You lose the ability to have Gnus fill in old headers to flesh partially read threads with old articles. This may not matter a whole lot if expiration times are short. Building group summaries is also somewhat slower, though if your network connection to the news server is decent this isn't a huge loss. Regards, -- steve@miranova.com baur Unsolicited commercial e-mail will be proofread for $250/hour. Andrea Seastrand: For your vote on the Telecom bill, I will vote for anyone except you in November.