From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/4188 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: steve@miranova.com (Steven L. Baur) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: What Gnus version for XEmacs 19.14? Date: 30 Nov 1995 13:13:23 -0800 Organization: Miranova Systems, Inc. Sender: steve@miranova.com Message-ID: References: <199511161439.PAA21954@ssv4.dina.kvl.dk> <199511301812.TAA08145@skippy.math.ethz.ch> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.27) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035144972 28820 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 20:16:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 20:16:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: vroonhof@math.ethz.ch Return-Path: ding-request@ifi.uio.no Original-Received: from moonbase_v.moonvalley.com (moonbase_v.moonvalley.com [204.212.162.1]) by miranova.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA25817 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 14:07:36 -0800 Original-Received: from ifi.uio.no (0@ifi.uio.no [129.240.64.2]) by moonbase_v.moonvalley.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA00589 for ; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:56:00 -0800 Original-Received: from miranova.com (steve@miranova.com [204.212.162.100]) by ifi.uio.no with ESMTP (8.6.11/ifi2.4) id for ; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 22:13:17 +0100 Original-Received: (from steve@localhost) by miranova.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA24857; Thu, 30 Nov 1995 13:13:24 -0800 Original-To: ding@ifi.uio.no X-Url: http://www.miranova.com/%7Esteve/ In-Reply-To: vroonhof@math.ethz.ch's message of 30 Nov 1995 10:12:59 -0800 Original-Lines: 60 X-Mailer: September Gnus v0.16 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:4188 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:4188 >>>>> "jan" == vroonhof writes: jan> Dear Lars and ding list readers (Note that I only jan> occasionally browse the list) >>>>> "Per" == Per Abrahamsen writes: Per> 5.0.12 is the release at Lars' site. Emacs 19.30 will have Per> 5.1. I'm more curious about what will be in XEmacs 19.14. Per> It might be a good idea to make an unbundled 5.1.1 release Per> after Emacs 19.30 has been released. jan> Now that 19.30 is out. I am even more for such an unbundled jan> release. I want the bug fixes in 5.1 without getting the jan> whole 19.30 distribution. At the moment I don't want to ask jan> our sysadmin people to upgrade our 19.28, because it is jan> difficult enough even to get them to do more urgent things. jan> Besides, I discovered enough discspace to install my own jan> (self maintained) copy of XEmacs 19.13 and really am thinking jan> of switching now. So having an up to date copy of a stable jan> gnus with XEmacs support would be nice. jan> I consider it a mistake to ship packages that don't support jan> XE with E and vice versa, because it makes library sharing jan> betweem them unnecesairily difficult for some small savings jan> in discspace. jan> Enyoing GNUS very much, thank you, What version to put with XEmacs 19.14? I've been wondering about this one too. The problem with 5.0.12 is that it has a lot of bugs in it, and I would rate the stability of the latest September Gnus (v0.16) to be superior at this time (considering the basic/older features and XEmacs only). Given also that the internal .newsrc format has changed, and older versions are ``poison'', I never bothered to even start 5.1 -- I installed September when I installed Emacs 19.30. One possibility is to phase it in, like they did with mailcrypt in the 19.13 release. Leave old GNUS as the default, but include the latest version of September Gnus for those who wish to try it. By the time 19.15 is ready, September Gnus should be 5.2 and solid (my unofficial guess). jan> Jan jan> P.S. Where did the versionnumber in the (nice) startup screen jan> go? There was a discussion on this list about this in mid-September. See the hypermail archive and the thread ``Guess this is a faq.. How to post to foreign groups?'' for the gory details. In short, you only see version numbers when *not* running an officially bundled Gnus. Regards, -- steve@miranova.com baur