From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/82877 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dave Abrahams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: What is a "virtual" group? Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:10:21 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87obl6ck1p.fsf@dod.no> <87vcbqs4fo.fsf@gnus.org> <878v8lvpp3.fsf@gnus.org> <87mwx1rgq1.fsf@gnus.org> <87a9t1rekl.fsf@gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1359655930 16516 80.91.229.3 (31 Jan 2013 18:12:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 18:12:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: ding-owner+M31143@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Jan 31 19:12:30 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U0yca-0006LP-Pw for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:12:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1U0yb7-0000Jv-17; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:10:53 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1U0yb4-0000Jg-6n for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:10:50 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1U0yb1-00029k-Gw for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:10:48 -0600 Original-Received: from mail-ea0-f173.google.com ([209.85.215.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1U0yaz-0000uh-JV for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:10:45 +0100 Original-Received: by mail-ea0-f173.google.com with SMTP id i1so1355514eaa.18 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:10:40 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=28/xxKCYECqZ74cohROhj97vgchIXTP9fv5fdB4g3k0=; b=awjeysYhY3Lm6JWzXCT1r1Bc6pdpI2/apMImm1EqXHp1JVKmI2t+TiWcD0DuCqabLS 7KWqa8T+6oeCHOygFy9kgnGX6xFtkWb7IQQpIfTf7dVyUTNm+gSIAli3jMczpKXxtH69 JRID2y7P9QU1mYyBHThpkraZd1EpBDmyM8xcngKVjlDE3aTo/iU9eW2klIVE+bMp4aDW 9nVNaLiKI/hXAh4o0REP6dXLgMvHniHGtIdXOoaQ/ChbSuY7UtgQxmvEGNEVWb0Hn0NJ nNw2F7Et/O+0/TwPR33J6+tgVRRsYh+Y7mtoVYSZgf3GfPmB91vCcHv9hemVv/44gFFp lazw== X-Received: by 10.14.218.132 with SMTP id k4mr16911699eep.27.1359655839930; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:10:39 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from pluto.boostpro.com ([88.128.80.7]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k7sm5888348een.8.2013.01.31.10.10.35 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:10:38 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by pluto.boostpro.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id A180D121CCA7; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:10:21 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <87a9t1rekl.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 25 Dec 2012 22:45:30 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2 (darwin) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkkKMPzXZ5bp4vns5rqGm4jLTbPJQ/CctJICpOWRwS00U8PIz8MRHsHL9aGNj3heMvvNmFf X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:82877 Archived-At: on Tue Dec 25 2012, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Dave Abrahams writes: > >> OK, the message says "Couldn't select virtual nndoc group". But nndoc >> groups are not today (and according to you, should never be) virtual. > > It creates an nnvirtual group over several nndoc groups. Just look a > few lines up from the error message. OK, getting back to this old thread... The phrasing of the message implies the nndoc group itself is virtual, the same way that "couldn't select that purple paper bag" implies the paper bag is also purple, not that the paper bag is in another bag that's purple. If you changed it to "Couldn't select nndoc group as source for virtual group " or some such, it would go from misleading/confusing to potentially useful. Would that be possible? -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing Software Development Training http://www.boostpro.com Clang/LLVM/EDG Compilers C++ Boost