* Different ispell dictionaries in different groups?
@ 2004-03-11 21:58 Jonas Steverud
2004-03-11 22:15 ` Simon Josefsson
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From: Jonas Steverud @ 2004-03-11 21:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
A "quick" question:
My main language is Swedish and about half of may emails are in
Swedish and the rest are in English. I have just started to use
flyspell-mode (yes, I am slow on the uptake) and I thought it would be
nice to have set which dictionary to use on a per group basis.
My first experiment with adding (FOOBAR (ispell-change-dictionary
"xxx")) (xxx = english|svenska) to the group parameters did not go
well, the summary buffer used the correct dictionary but not the
message in message-mode, it always used "english".
Any suggestions?
No Gnus v0.1
--
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( Meaning of U2 Lyrics, Roleplaying ! To Do Without Do )
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* Re: Different ispell dictionaries in different groups?
2004-03-11 21:58 Different ispell dictionaries in different groups? Jonas Steverud
@ 2004-03-11 22:15 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-03-13 3:08 ` Patrice Neff
2004-03-11 22:20 ` Xavier Maillard
2004-03-11 22:49 ` Marcus Frings
2 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Simon Josefsson @ 2004-03-11 22:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
Jonas Steverud <tvrud@bredband.net> writes:
> A "quick" question:
>
> My main language is Swedish and about half of may emails are in
> Swedish and the rest are in English. I have just started to use
> flyspell-mode (yes, I am slow on the uptake) and I thought it would be
> nice to have set which dictionary to use on a per group basis.
>
> My first experiment with adding (FOOBAR (ispell-change-dictionary
> "xxx")) (xxx = english|svenska) to the group parameters did not go
> well, the summary buffer used the correct dictionary but not the
> message in message-mode, it always used "english".
>
> Any suggestions?
Not an answer, but I'd really like for a feature in flyspell to
auto-detect "secondary" languages. Flyspell could try to count common
English words, and common Swedish words, and chose accordingly. Or
try to switch dictionary when the failure rate is > 50 %, and see if
the failure rate decreases. I think this approach would be more
reliable than group parameters.
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* Re: Different ispell dictionaries in different groups?
2004-03-11 21:58 Different ispell dictionaries in different groups? Jonas Steverud
2004-03-11 22:15 ` Simon Josefsson
@ 2004-03-11 22:20 ` Xavier Maillard
2004-03-12 8:40 ` Jonas Steverud
2004-03-11 22:49 ` Marcus Frings
2 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Xavier Maillard @ 2004-03-11 22:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
Jonas Steverud <tvrud <at> bredband.net> writes:
> Any suggestions?
Maybe you could give a try to this :
http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/GnusSpelling
Look at the gnus-parameters. This is something I wrote and submitted here. It
works for me (I use it for weeks now).
zeDek
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* Re: Different ispell dictionaries in different groups?
2004-03-11 21:58 Different ispell dictionaries in different groups? Jonas Steverud
2004-03-11 22:15 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-03-11 22:20 ` Xavier Maillard
@ 2004-03-11 22:49 ` Marcus Frings
2 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Marcus Frings @ 2004-03-11 22:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
* Jonas Steverud <tvrud@bredband.net> wrote:
> My main language is Swedish and about half of may emails are in
> Swedish and the rest are in English. I have just started to use
> flyspell-mode (yes, I am slow on the uptake) and I thought it would be
> nice to have set which dictionary to use on a per group basis.
> My first experiment with adding (FOOBAR (ispell-change-dictionary
> "xxx")) (xxx = english|svenska) to the group parameters did not go
> well, the summary buffer used the correct dictionary but not the
> message in message-mode, it always used "english".
Don't use group parameters, use posting styles! See example below!
> Any suggestions?
(setq gnus-posting-styles
;; Default ----------------------------------------------------------------
'((".*"
(eval (ispell-change-dictionary "deutsch9"))) ;; use German as default
;; News Default -----------------------------------------------------------
((message-news-p)
; Put your news stuff here!
)
;; English groups ---------------------------------------------------------
("^gnu\\." ;; just an example
(eval (ispell-change-dictionary "british"))) ;; for gnu.* use British
;; Mail default -----------------------------------------------------------
((message-mail-p)
; Put your mail stuff here!
)))
Regards,
Marcus
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* Re: Different ispell dictionaries in different groups?
2004-03-11 22:20 ` Xavier Maillard
@ 2004-03-12 8:40 ` Jonas Steverud
2004-03-12 9:25 ` Xavier Maillard
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From: Jonas Steverud @ 2004-03-12 8:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
Xavier Maillard <zedek@gnu-rox.org> writes:
> Jonas Steverud <tvrud <at> bredband.net> writes:
>
>> Any suggestions?
[...]
> http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/GnusSpelling
Very interesting! What would you consider to be ETA before it ends up
in CVS/next release of Gnus?
I think I go for Marcus Fringes' solution for the time being - I try
to keep my .gnus free of experimental code.
(Marcus' solution doesn't work too well with mine setup since I don't
have a perfect hierarchy of mail groups - e.g. ding goes to
nnfolder:Ding and not nnfolder:Mail.Lists.Ding or something
similar. But I will use it until your code has ended up in Gnus.)
--
( http://hem.bredband.net/steverud/ ! Wei Wu Wei )
( Meaning of U2 Lyrics, Roleplaying ! To Do Without Do )
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* Re: Different ispell dictionaries in different groups?
2004-03-12 8:40 ` Jonas Steverud
@ 2004-03-12 9:25 ` Xavier Maillard
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From: Xavier Maillard @ 2004-03-12 9:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
Jonas Steverud <tvrud <at> bredband.net> writes:
>
> Xavier Maillard <zedek <at> gnu-rox.org> writes:
>
> > Jonas Steverud <tvrud <at> bredband.net> writes:
> >
> >> Any suggestions?
> [...]
> > http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/GnusSpelling
>
> Very interesting! What would you consider to be ETA before it ends up
> in CVS/next release of Gnus?
ETA ? I need to receive confirmation for my submition from the FSF before one
can actually incorporate it in Gnus. I sent them 2 days ago so ... :)
Regards,
zeDek
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* Re: Different ispell dictionaries in different groups?
2004-03-11 22:15 ` Simon Josefsson
@ 2004-03-13 3:08 ` Patrice Neff
2004-03-13 12:15 ` Simon Josefsson
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From: Patrice Neff @ 2004-03-13 3:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:
> Not an answer, but I'd really like for a feature in flyspell to
> auto-detect "secondary" languages. Flyspell could try to count common
> English words, and common Swedish words, and chose accordingly. Or
> try to switch dictionary when the failure rate is > 50 %, and see if
> the failure rate decreases. I think this approach would be more
> reliable than group parameters.
Try out if <http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?AutoLangMode>
suits your needs. I have tried it in the past and with some small
modifications (which mainly had to do with the fact that I use the
Swiss German dictionary instead of the German) it worked just fine.
Regards
Patrice
--
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes
to the Father except through me." (The Bible, John 14:6)
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* Re: Different ispell dictionaries in different groups?
2004-03-13 3:08 ` Patrice Neff
@ 2004-03-13 12:15 ` Simon Josefsson
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From: Simon Josefsson @ 2004-03-13 12:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ding
Patrice Neff <mailinglists@patrice.ch> writes:
> Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:
>
>> Not an answer, but I'd really like for a feature in flyspell to
>> auto-detect "secondary" languages. Flyspell could try to count common
>> English words, and common Swedish words, and chose accordingly. Or
>> try to switch dictionary when the failure rate is > 50 %, and see if
>> the failure rate decreases. I think this approach would be more
>> reliable than group parameters.
>
> Try out if <http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?AutoLangMode>
> suits your needs. I have tried it in the past and with some small
> modifications (which mainly had to do with the fact that I use the
> Swiss German dictionary instead of the German) it worked just fine.
Thanks! This seems just like what I was looking for. It didn't work
out of the box (it couldn't find my Swedish dictionary), but it is
probably just some minor problem.
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