Re: Mutt/Gnus hybrid for mail?

[Peter Davis <pfd@pfdstudio.com>]

jorge.alfaro-murillo@yale.edu (Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo) writes:

> Peter Davis writes:
>
>> Most significantly, since I only use mutt or gnus for email, I 
>> find mutt more intuitive, since its commands, etc. were designed 
>> for email.  "Delete" instead of "Expire", etc. (BTW, I'm using 
>> both with Fastmail.fm IMAP.)
>
> If you use IMAP perhaps you should move the messages to the Trash 
> group instead of expiring them.

I do have the expiry target set to INBOX.Trash

>
>> Also, when I delete/expire a message, mutt automatically 
>> displays the next unread message in the folder. Gnus requires 
>> another keystroke. (Not a big deal, but annoying.)
>
> You could assign a key to a function like this:
>
> #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp
>   (defun my-gnus-summary-delete-article ()
>     (interactive)
>     (gnus-summary-move-article nil "nnimap+Fastmail.fm:Trash")
>     (gnus-summary-next-unread-article))
>  
> #+END_SRC
>
> "nnimap+Fastmai.fml:Trash" is just a guess, you should use 
> whatever your group is called.
>

Worth a try. Does this actually display the next unread message, or just
move the cursor to it?

>> I have not managed to get gnus to display previously read 
>> messages in a thread automatically, though I've messed around 
>> with  (setq gnus-fetch-old-headers t). I gather this is 
>> inconsistent on IMAP servers, and slow.
>
> Maybe try setting
>
> #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp
>   (setq gnus-refer-thread-use-nnir t)
>  
> #+END_SRC
>
> And then use "A T" when you need it. With 99% of the people using 
> a TOFU (Text Over, Fullquote Under) style, most of the time you do 
> not need to see the whole thread since it appears in the latest 
> email.
>  

Using 'A T' works, but I don't want to do that. I want all messages in
any threads with unread articles to just be there when I enter the group.

>> Anyway, customatizations are unlikely to improve performance. 
>> Mutt seems faster at downloading messages, etc.
>
> I would also like to hear about ways to improve performance.

Yes, I'm always glad to learn ways to make gnus faster or more usable.

Thank you.

-pd