From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/58817 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jan Rychter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus losing information about what has been read Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 05:22:03 +0900 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1097526246 21845 80.91.229.6 (11 Oct 2004 20:24:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 20:24:06 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M7355@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Oct 11 22:23:43 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13] ident=mail) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CH6hr-0000nb-00 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 22:23:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1CH6gL-0002Fk-00; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:22:09 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1CH6gC-0002FI-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:22:00 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CH6gB-0005TC-LV for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:21:59 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D253A0060 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:21:57 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CH6g8-0000MB-00 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 22:21:56 +0200 Original-Received: from 66-27-68-14.san.rr.com ([66.27.68.14]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 22:21:56 +0200 Original-Received: from jan by 66-27-68-14.san.rr.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 22:21:56 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 37 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 66-27-68-14.san.rr.com X-Spammers-Please: blackholeme@rychter.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) XEmacs/21.4 (Security Through Obscurity, linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:MFC9wTDmfu1C3nAWnGJcyDZRHKk= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:58817 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:58817 >>>>> "Kevin" == Kevin Greiner writes: Kevin> Jan Rychter writes: > "Kevin" == Kevin Greiner : >> [...] Kevin> My patch was defective. I had tested physical unplugging rather Kevin> than gnus "unplugged". I've updated gnus-int.el again. >> >> That seems to have fixed the problem for me. I'm still amazed this >> went unnoticed with so many people... Kevin> Sorry, but I've had to withdraw the patch. Check out the latest Kevin> to try an alternative solution. Ahem, I've been bitten by the same problem once again. It hurt. So this time I actually took some time to look into it. Here are the results: -- I had gnus-agent-synchronize-flags set to nil for some reason. Why is that the default? :-O -- setting it to 'ask and replying 'y' to the question about flag synchronization fixed the problem for me, -- so I've now set it to t. I feel smarter. -- perusing the Fine Manual as to what this flag actually does led me to the section about IMAP. I've never used IMAP and I do not intend to. I mostly use NNTP. -- nowhere in the Fine Manual does it say that if I don't read about IMAP and gnus-agent-synchronize-flags, the information about NNTP articles that I've read offline will be forgotten and lost. I submit that Gnus defaults to the wrong thing here, because I seriously doubt whether forgetting about articles that one has read offline is something anyone would want by default. --J.