From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/52121 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Overbearing undownloaded face Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 18:49:12 -0700 Organization: Still searching... Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1051840122 28879 80.91.224.249 (2 May 2003 01:48:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 01:48:42 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M664@lists.math.uh.edu Fri May 02 03:48:41 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19BPfF-0007Vc-00 for ; Fri, 02 May 2003 03:48:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19BPfv-00036s-00; Thu, 01 May 2003 20:49:23 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19BPfn-00036m-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 01 May 2003 20:49:16 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 99880 invoked by alias); 2 May 2003 01:49:15 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 99875 invoked from network); 2 May 2003 01:49:15 -0000 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org (80.91.224.249) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 2 May 2003 01:49:15 -0000 Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19BPea-0007TA-00 for ; Fri, 02 May 2003 03:48:00 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19BPeZ-0007T0-00 for ; Fri, 02 May 2003 03:47:59 +0200 Original-Lines: 23 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.09002 (Oort Gnus v0.20) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:EslBpUnpYZl7jc2PKmCoYDuPc3I= Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52121 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:52121 I've recently come back to using the agent after several mnths of running plugged only. The current setup with undownloaded face seems to overpower other long standing faces and options. When messages come in, they seem to receive a dull grey face (normal-undownloaded) and unless one actuall downloads the message it is not possible to change that face with other actions that normally would change a message face. Things like ticked, domant, read etc have no effect on this overpowering face. That might make some sense if the user had true predicate in all groups and never needed to keep track of undownloaded but read or ticked but undownloaded or any number of other possibilities, one might encounter while online. I haven't noticed any complaints about this so am wondering if it might be some screw up in my local settings. Just at a quick thought, it seems the undownloaded face is more a pain in the butt than a help. Is it a local problem or is it intended to work this way? If the latter how would I override or disable this behavior?