From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/53174 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jan Rychter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: something decodes my headers... Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 17:12:26 -0700 Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1055722634 27036 80.91.224.249 (16 Jun 2003 00:17:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 00:17:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Ding" Original-X-From: ding-owner+M1718@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Jun 16 02:17:11 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19RhgN-00071w-00 for ; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 02:17:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19Rhin-0004Pk-00; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 19:19:41 -0500 Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com ([64.157.176.121]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 19Rhih-0004Pf-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 19:19:35 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 84491 invoked by alias); 16 Jun 2003 00:19:35 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 84486 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2003 00:19:35 -0000 Original-Received: from screech.rychter.com (212.87.11.114) by sclp3.sclp.com with SMTP; 16 Jun 2003 00:19:35 -0000 Original-Received: from tnuctip.rychter.com (unknown [10.197.0.2]) by screech.rychter.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C694A601; Mon, 16 Jun 2003 02:19:26 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from tnuctip.rychter.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by tnuctip.rychter.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h5G0CXmG001232; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 17:12:39 -0700 Original-Received: (from jwr@localhost) by tnuctip.rychter.com (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h5G0CRJS001230; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 17:12:27 -0700 Original-To: Dave Love X-Spammers-Please: blackholeme@rychter.com In-Reply-To: (Simon Josefsson's message of "Fri, 13 Jun 2003 08:37:22 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) XEmacs/21.4 (Portable Code, linux) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53174 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:53174 >>>>> "Simon" == Simon Josefsson writes: Simon> Dave Love writes: >> Jan Rychter writes: >> > People who get ISO-8859-1 E-mail don't see this, because mail-extr.el > is "extended" to handle ISO-8859-1 in a particularly ugly way. >> >> That must be XEmacs-specific. mail-extr in Emacs (at least Emacs >> 21) works with multilingual text. Simon> What does "works" mean? I'm not aware of any standards that Simon> define how non-ASCII email address phrases should work (RFC Simon> (2)822 even forbid them) except MIME, so any implementation Simon> claiming to support it if it doesn't use MIME is ad-hoc at best. In general, I'd agree with Simon, but I think what Dave meant was that mail-extract-address-components is supposed to do its hairy thing independent of whether it gets an rfc2047-encoded string or not. Perhaps that is indeed the case. In any case, I've reported the problem to XEmacs developers as it indeed seems that mail-extr.el is different in GNU Emacs (it uses [:alnum:] in regexes specifying the fullname part). The ISO-8859-1-specific hack seems to be XEmacs-only. I just hope someone will fix this, I hope we won't end up just pointing fingers here and there. --J.