From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/25171 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Johan Kullstam" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: archives of the list? / base64 attachments? Date: 20 Sep 1999 17:42:32 -0400 Organization: none Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035162607 12642 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 01:10:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 01:10:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Gnus Ding List Return-Path: Original-Received: from bart.math.uh.edu (bart.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.48]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA08540 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:43:17 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by bart.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAB01812; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:43:04 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:43:01 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA29833 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:42:43 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from kullstam.ne.mediaone.net (qmailr@kullstam.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.92.14]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA08512 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:40:42 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (qmail 6491 invoked by uid 501); 20 Sep 1999 21:42:32 -0000 Original-To: Matt McClure In-Reply-To: Matt McClure's message of "20 Sep 1999 10:02:09 -0400" Original-Lines: 47 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070096 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.96) Emacs/20.4 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:25171 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:25171 Matt McClure writes: > Are messages to this list archived somewhere? > > I apologize if this has been talked about hundreds of times already. Is > it possible to attach a file to a message using base64 as the Content > Transfer Encoding? Every attachment I've sent has been encoded as > quoted-printable by gnus. I'm using pgnus 0.96. yes. look at the variable mm-content-transfer-encoding-defaults. put in your .gnus.el the following incantation: (setq mm-content-transfer-encoding-defaults '(("text/x-patch" 8bit) ("text/.*" qp-or-base64) ;; <- i am strongly considering ;; plain base64 here ("message/rfc822" 8bit) ("application/emacs-lisp" 8bit) ("application/x-patch" 8bit) (".*" base64))) ;; <- this was qp-or-base64 the doc string for qp-or-base64 claims that it will choose the `best' encoding format but my experience is that it always uses quoted-printable regardless. for compressed binaries, the quoted-printable representation is much larger than base64. quoted printable can easily double the size of a binary attachment. quoted-printable is also slow compared to base64. e.g., i takes about a minute to send a 1 megabyte compressed archive with quotedprintable compared to a second or two for base64. quoted-printable is either broken up front or doesn't survive sending by qmail. i see qp losing to base64 for all these reasons. i don't know what criteron is used to select `best'. whatever it is, it seems bogus to me. in light of all this, i am tempted to change qp-or-base64 for text junk to base64 too. -- J o h a n K u l l s t a m [kullstam@ne.mediaone.net] Don't Fear the Penguin!