From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/15692 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Francisco Solsona Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Proper way to create new foreign groups Date: 21 Jul 1998 09:28:11 -0500 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <76af63nxla.fsf@tweed.principia.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035154678 23454 80.91.224.250 (20 Oct 2002 22:57:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 22:57:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (gwyn.tux.org [207.96.122.8]) by altair.xemacs.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA08150 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 07:52:06 -0700 Original-Received: from gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (gizmo.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.102.31]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20518 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 10:48:29 -0400 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (sina.hpc.uh.edu [129.7.3.5]) by gizmo.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAS04338; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 09:17:14 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 21 Jul 1998 09:31:46 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (root@sclp3.sclp.com [209.195.19.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA28859 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 09:31:37 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from dep1.fciencias.unam.mx (solsona@dep1.fciencias.unam.mx [132.248.133.210]) by sclp3.sclp.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01783 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 10:31:33 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (from solsona@localhost) by dep1.fciencias.unam.mx (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA12024; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 09:28:12 -0500 Mail-Copies-To: never Original-To: Jake Colman In-Reply-To: Jake Colman's message of "21 Jul 1998 09:27:13 -0400" Original-Lines: 53 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.24/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:15692 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:15692 Jake Colman writes: > I use a named nnml backend to process mailing lists. I've set up > nnmail-split-methods to sort the mail to the proper group. What is the > approved method of introducing new foreigh groups to gnus? You don't normally create (G m) new mail groups, you wait for Gnus to show them. If you're talking about groups in a foreign server, for instance, then you can browse the server and use "u" to (un)subscribe to new groups. > 1) Use 'G m' to create the group. Don't do this. Gnus will create the "mail" (not foreign) group for you. > 2) Set up nnmail-split-method to process the group > 3) Wait for mail to arrive. That's it, that's all you have to do. Sometimes the new group is listed as zombie (use `A Z` to list all zombie groups). What I normally do, is check if mail has arrived to the new group, and if it has, then I do `j `, set its level at 2, and then enter it. Note that includes the name of the backend and the "server name", e.g. I use the following: (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml "private"))) so, my mail groups are named: nnml+private:mail-group-name > I think the problem is that I use a named nnml backend in my > secondary-select-method. I don't think so, I also use a named nnml backend and I've never had problems with it. > When I create the foreign group, it gets associated with the > default, unnamed, nnml backend. When mail arrives, the next time I > enter gnus I see the group two times: once with an unnamed nnml > backend, and once with the named nnml backend. Is there a better > way to do this? Yep, let Gnus take care of the creation of the group. The problem is that a group has a name and a select method; where the select method is a list with the first element being the backend and the second the server name and AFAIK you cannot pass that list when using `G m`. hth, Francisco -- Matrimony is the root of all evil.