group params bug

group params bug

[Wesley.Hardaker]

Red Gnus v0.72; nntp 5.0; nnml 1.0
XEmacs 19.14 [Lucid] (sparc-sun-solaris2.4) of Sat Jun 22 1996 on xemacs

So, after screwing with my group params in my newly created inbox,
which I want to be treated very differently than the rest of the
groups, I ran into this small problem:

((display . all)
 (total-expire nil)
 (gnus-use-scoring nil)
...

Note, most importantly, the total-expire line.  Normally, all my nnml
groups are total-expirable:

(setq gnus-total-expirable-newsgroups "nnml:.*")

I don't want my inbox to be this way for obvious reasons.  So, I
tried:

(total-expire . nil)

which got replaced by gnus with:

(total-expire)

which is not at all what I want, as this turns it on.  However, I
doubt the above will work either (total-expire nil) as its a var not a
parm.  I suppose setting the regexp to be nil might work...

???
Wes

Re: group params bug

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Wesley.Hardaker@sphys.unil.ch writes:

> I don't want my inbox to be this way for obvious reasons.  So, I
> tried:
> 
> (total-expire . nil)
> 
> which got replaced by gnus with:
> 
> (total-expire)
> 
> which is not at all what I want, as this turns it on. 

No, it shouldn't...  

However, group params that look like (in full):

((total-expire))

and

(total-expire)

means the opposite of each other.

((display . all)
 (total-expire)
 (gnus-use-scoring nil))

should do exactly what you want.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen

Re: group params bug

[Wesley.Hardaker]

>>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:

Lars> ((display . all) (total-expire) (gnus-use-scoring nil))

Lars> should do exactly what you want.


Reallyy..  I guess I missed that somewhere in the docs?

So if I wanted it on I wouldn't ()icize it?  :

((display . exactly-what-wes-wants) total-expire (gnus-use-scoring nil))

Wes

Re: group params bug

[Per Abrahamsen]

>>>>> "Lars" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:

Lars> ((display . all) (total-expire) (gnus-use-scoring nil))

>>>>> "WH" == Wesley Hardaker <Wesley.Hardaker@sphys.unil.ch> writes:

WH> Reallyy..  I guess I missed that somewhere in the docs?

I didn't read it that way either.  In that case the entry for total
expire in gnus-cus.el should be changed to allow you to turn total
expire off. 

Re: group params bug

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Wesley.Hardaker@sphys.unil.ch writes:

> So if I wanted it on I wouldn't ()icize it?  :
> 
> ((display . exactly-what-wes-wants) total-expire (gnus-use-scoring nil))

Or:

((display . exactly-what-wes-wants) (total-expire . t) (gnus-use-scoring nil))

They are equivalent.  The only reason the former is allowed is because
I changed my mind mid-way.  I should update the manual to document the
"real" way to do this.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen