From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/32243 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: cmsg cancel Date: 20 Aug 2000 14:18:09 -0700 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035168547 18652 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 02:49:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:49:07 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from spinoza.math.uh.edu (spinoza.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.18]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B7CD051E for ; Sun, 20 Aug 2000 17:23:16 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by spinoza.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAC07562; Sun, 20 Aug 2000 16:23:14 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 20 Aug 2000 16:20:21 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03991 for ; Sun, 20 Aug 2000 16:20:11 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mail.networkone.net (mail.networkone.net [209.144.112.75]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E5FBD051E for ; Sun, 20 Aug 2000 17:20:41 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (qmail 13131 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2000 21:20:39 -0000 Original-Received: from adsl-116-86.ln.networkone.net (HELO reader.ptw.com) (209.144.116.86) by mail.networkone.net with SMTP; 20 Aug 2000 21:20:39 -0000 Original-Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.ptw.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA05743; Sun, 20 Aug 2000 14:20:36 -0700 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Karl Kleinpaste's message of "20 Aug 2000 17:01:27 -0400" User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.5 Original-Lines: 23 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:32243 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:32243 Karl Kleinpaste writes: > Harry Putnam writes: > > The message I'm replying to was posted by the act of me cancelling a > > post, through no other action of mine. Is that normal? > > Well, yeah. > > This is one of the few true brekadowns of the semantic similarities > between mail and news, where the transport actually matters. Once you > send an email message, it's gone. You can't cancel it or recall it or > whatever. Posting a cancellation of a mail-gatewayed news message > implies, in this case, that the cancellation itself constitutes yet > another to-be-gatewayed message. At best, one can complain that the > newsfeeds configuration of INN on Quimby should prevent control > messages from passing through the gate. Then folks who see just the > mail side will still see both messages you posted, but they won't see > the cancellation. Ahh, so not a good move to try to cancel a mailed (smtp transport) message through a news (nntp transport) gateway. In this case the end result was more unnecessary verbiage instead of the intended less.