From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/32156 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harry Putnam Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: expiry-target Date: 13 Aug 2000 21:14:57 -0700 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: References: <64itt4eo42.fsf@a11375-rw.asc.corp.mot.com> <64og2wcz0a.fsf@a11375-rw.asc.corp.mot.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035168473 18136 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 02:47:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:47:53 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from spinoza.math.uh.edu (spinoza.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.18]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C23CD051E for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 00:11:06 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by spinoza.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAC12472; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 23:10:59 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Sun, 13 Aug 2000 23:08:10 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA11912 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 23:07:59 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mail.networkone.net (mail.networkone.net [209.144.112.75]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D4207D051E for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 00:08:29 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (qmail 27356 invoked from network); 14 Aug 2000 04:08:28 -0000 Original-Received: from adsl-116-86.ln.networkone.net (HELO reader.ptw.com) (209.144.116.86) by mail.networkone.net with SMTP; 14 Aug 2000 04:08:28 -0000 Original-Received: (from reader@localhost) by reader.ptw.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA02201; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 21:15:06 -0700 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Rod Whitby's message of "14 Aug 2000 12:47:25 +0930" User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.5 Original-Lines: 79 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:32156 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:32156 Rod Whitby writes: > Harry Putnam writes: > > Rob, > > That's Rod to my friends :-) Whoops > > Sorry to have steadfastly ignored your patches. My reasons were, that > > I have very little experience using patches, the few times I have it > > has been directly from a gnus article buffer to the appropriate el > > files, via the `O p' command (save to a pipe) piping to patch. > > At least now I know that my posts are getting through :-) I was hoping > that I would get a "yep, we're happy with that patch and will apply it > to the next version" response, but I now notice that Lars is now > responding to a backlog of mail. Is Lars the only CVS committer, or > is there a group (like for XEmacs patch reviewers) ? Is ding@gnus.org > the best place to post patches. Is there are specific subject header > required ? There are more cvs committers I believe, but best let them answer that. > > > In this case patch tells me it sees only garbage in the patch. > > Probably something I'm doing wrong. > > I'm probably not formatting the patch properly so that it can be > automatically applied. Hopefully, someone can show me the best way to > submit patches. I don't have CVS access (firewall issue), so I work > from RCS'd snapshots. Well it did its job painlessly when I moved the patch to pgnus/lisp/ > > Secondly in your several posts on this, including patches, you have > > steadfastly refused to supply an example of how this works or what it > > looks like. Being a lisp illiterate, I need to see examples to see > > how it is supposed to work. > > No problem. I didn't realise I was being asked, so I didn't realise I > was steadfastly refusing :-) Well, not to labor a point but the messages I posted, that you replied to with your patch, *all* made requests for examples. > In my group parameters for my nnml:INBOX folder, I have: > > ((expiry-wait . immediate) > (expiry-target . "nnml:DELETED") > (dummy > (progn > (local-set-key "d" > 'gnus-summary-put-mark-as-expirable-next) > nil))) > > So the 'd' (for delete) key marks the message as expirable, and the > messages are expired as soon as I leave the group (the immediate value > for expiry-wait). You don't need that if you're happy with the 'E' > binding for expiry or can retrain your fingers after they used VM for > a number of years. Now "expired" means "moved to the nnml:DELETED > folder" for this group. This is analogous to the "Trash" folder in > Netscape. OK, so only the first two lines are directly about the targetted expiry? What does `dummy' do. What does C-h v nnmail-expiry-target say on your setup? Does this mean that (with your patch in place) I could say: ((total-expire . t) (expiry-wait . 14) (expiry-target . "nnml:TARGET") In group params of a group and expirable stuff would show up in nnml:TARGET in two weeks? I can find out by experiments but its too late tonight and it would be nice to know what to expect tomorrow when I try it out.