Re: 0.98 + topics = catastrophe (Was: Pterodactyl Gnus v0.98 is released)

[Matt Swift <swift@alum.mit.edu>]

>>"K" == Kai Großjohann <Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE> writes:

    K> Kai Großjohann <Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE> writes:
    >> I'll try level 7 next and see if that makes a difference.  You
    >> will hear from me if it does.

    K> Now the group didn't appear, but typing `L' made it appear
    K> (with `U' and `*' in front of it).

Would you mind trying the same with a group set to level 8
(gnus-level-zombie)?  

Lee Willis wrote me privately saying that he can't see groups with
level 7 OR 8 when he says `9 L', but he argues that this is the way
Gnus is *supposed* to behave.  I'm going to ignore how I think Gnus
ought to behave for the time being, and try to figure out more simply
just what determines its behavior.

Now, I've asked you both for further details, but it seems that my
system, your system, and Lee's system, are all behaving differently.

Z = gnus-level-zombie, Z > (1+ gnus-activate-level), Z+1 = gnus-level-killed

(with Gnus default values, Z=8)

          Z-1       Z
     -----------------------
  me:    no        yes
 Lee:    no         no
 Kai:   yes         ?


If confirmed, this leads me to believe that another Gnus variable is
relevant (and probably relevant when it shouldn't be relevant).
I have gnus-save-killed-list set to nil.  What about you?  What other
candidates haven't we mentioned?