Gnus 5.4.7 problems on Win32

Gnus 5.4.7 problems on Win32

[Rich Pieri]

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This is very strange, especially since Gnus 5.4.7 seems to work okay on
my Linux box, and Gnus 5.4.40 works just fine on my Win95 machine (and
has been for some time, now).  The problem is that after splitting up
.gnus-crash-box, something starts looking at other 'dot files' in my
%HOME directory.  This fails, of course, and Gnus reports that it cannot
chmod .gnus-crash-box.  Here is the relevant chunk of my Messages
buffer:

Getting mail from d:/ratinox/.gnus-crash-box...
Getting mail from d:/ratinox/.gnus-crash-box...done
Wrote d:/ratinox/Mail/...
...
Wrote d:/ratinox/Mail/...
nnml: Reading incoming mail...
Getting mail from d:/ratinox/.bashrc
Doing chmod: no such file or directory, d:/ratinox/.gnus-crash-box

nnmail is trying to treat ~/.bashrc as an inbox/crashbox, which is just
plain wrong, and I cannot see where it is getting that from.  The
.overview files are not saved (though I can save them manually).  The
active file is unchanged (and it appears that I cannot save that).

nnml-generate-nov-databases barfs in various and sundry ways (two runs
with two completely different tracebacks, triggered by different groups
and functions).

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Re: Gnus 5.4.7 problems on Win32

[Steven L Baur]

Rich Pieri writes:

> Doing chmod: no such file or directory, d:/ratinox/.gnus-crash-box

I have observed similar errors on Linux with an NFS mounted home
directory.
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Re: Gnus 5.4.7 problems on Win32

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Rich Pieri <rich.pieri@prescienttech.com> writes:

> nnmail is trying to treat ~/.bashrc as an inbox/crashbox, which is just
> plain wrong, and I cannot see where it is getting that from.  The
> .overview files are not saved (though I can save them manually).  The
> active file is unchanged (and it appears that I cannot save that).

What's the value of your `nnmail-spool-file'?

> nnml-generate-nov-databases barfs in various and sundry ways (two runs
> with two completely different tracebacks, triggered by different groups
> and functions).

I think this'll be fixed in 5.2.8.

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Re: Gnus 5.4.7 problems on Win32

[Rich Pieri]

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>>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:

LMI> Rich Pieri <rich.pieri@prescienttech.com> writes:
>> nnmail is trying to treat ~/.bashrc as an inbox/crashbox, which is
>> just plain wrong, and I cannot see where it is getting that from.
>> The .overview files are not saved (though I can save them manually).
>> The active file is unchanged (and it appears that I cannot save
>> that).

LMI> What's the value of your `nnmail-spool-file'?

An empty string: `""', because I am getting mail from a POP server and
do not have a local spool.

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Re: Gnus 5.4.7 problems on Win32

[Rich Pieri]

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>>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:

LMI> What's the value of your `nnmail-spool-file'?

As mentioned before, an empty string.

For some reason (an Emacs bug, maybe?) expand-file-name (and its ilk)
expand "" to the user's home directory.  This causes nnmail to start
searching all the files within it, and since they are not mail files...
boom.

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Re: Gnus 5.4.7 problems on Win32

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Rich Pieri <rich.pieri@prescienttech.com> writes:

> LMI> What's the value of your `nnmail-spool-file'?
> 
> An empty string: `""', because I am getting mail from a POP server and
> do not have a local spool.

That variable should be "po:whatever" when getting mail from a POP
server, shouldn't it?  How does Gnus fetch mail from the server?

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Re: Gnus 5.4.7 problems on Win32

[Rich Pieri]

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>>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@ifi.uio.no> writes:

LMI> That variable should be "po:whatever" when getting mail from a POP
LMI> server, shouldn't it?  How does Gnus fetch mail from the server?

pop3.el :).

Regardless, it shouldn't be an empty/null string.

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Re: Gnus 5.4.7 problems on Win32

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Rich Pieri <rich.pieri@prescienttech.com> writes:

> LMI> What's the value of your `nnmail-spool-file'?
> 
> As mentioned before, an empty string.

Well, that's an illegal value.

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