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From: Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com>
To: ding@gnus.org
Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Subject: Re: What is a "virtual" group?
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:08:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2haqyhup5.fsf@pluto.luannocracy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87obl6ck1p.fsf@dod.no>


on Sun Sep 16 2012, Steinar Bang <sb-AT-dod.no> wrote:

>>>>>> Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com>:
>
>> I'm not referring here to nnvirtual, but to the virtual property as it
>> appears in `gnus-valid-select-methods' or in 
>
>>   (gnus-declare-backend "nnir" 'mail 'virtual)
>
>> which is done in nnir.el
>
> "Virtual group" in this context refers to a temporary group holding
> the results of the nnir search.

Just to be clear, I'm trying to understand the purpose of labelling a
group "virtual."  In other words, what is that supposed to /mean/ in
Gnus-land?

The "holding the results of the nnir search" part of your response is
not particularly relevant to the question, since that just happens to be
the case for this particular "virtual" group.  So I'm left with

   virtual == temporary

Is that really all it means?

>> The context for my question is
>> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/82136, where I'm
>> wondering whether it's OK to label "nndoc" groups as virtual
>
> Well,... I can't answer that.

I think only someone who understands the intended meaning of "virtual"
could answer it.  Lars?

>> Answers to the other questions at the end of that article would also be
>> most appreciated:
>
>> * Should gnus-warp-to-article really be restricting itself to virtual
>>   groups?
>
> For nnir what it does is to move out of the group and into to the group
> the article was found in, and show the article there.  In the group it
> belongs to, it can be replied to with the appropriate sender address,
> and have its tick marks changed.

I know what gnus-warp-to-article does, intimately.  The question is,is
there a reason that gnus-warp-to-article only does something in groups
marked "virtual," and if so, what is that reason?

>> * Should I be doing something different in `gnus-goto-article' to build
>>   a group with my message in it?
>
> I can't answer that either.

Thanks for trying.

-- 
Dave Abrahams
BoostPro Computing                  Software Development        Training
http://www.boostpro.com             Clang/LLVM/EDG Compilers  C++  Boost




  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-16 15:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-15 23:53 Dave Abrahams
2012-09-16 10:57 ` Steinar Bang
2012-09-16 15:08   ` Dave Abrahams [this message]
2012-09-16 15:15     ` Adam Sjøgren
2012-09-16 16:52     ` Steinar Bang
2012-12-25 12:26     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2012-12-25 20:23       ` Dave Abrahams
2012-12-25 20:31         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2012-12-25 20:51           ` Dave Abrahams
2012-12-25 20:59             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2012-12-25 21:32               ` Dave Abrahams
2012-12-25 21:45                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2013-01-31 18:10                   ` Dave Abrahams
2013-01-31 18:18                 ` Dave Abrahams
2013-01-31 23:18                   ` Eric S Fraga
2013-02-20  5:06                     ` Dave Abrahams
2013-04-22  8:38                       ` Leonidas Tsampros
2013-04-25 13:50                         ` Dave Abrahams
2013-04-25 17:48                           ` Leonidas Tsampros

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