From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/68372 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Abrahams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: nnimap and sticky cache Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:33:45 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87wsaezl72.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1237944922 25505 80.91.229.12 (25 Mar 2009 01:35:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:35:22 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M16810@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Mar 25 02:36:39 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LmI2h-0003eo-AS for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:36:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmI0Q-00018s-Fu; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:34:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LmI0N-00018V-GN for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:34:07 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LmI0H-00055r-Qx for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:34:07 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1LmI0e-0007X2-00 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:34:24 +0100 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LmI0G-0005qT-7B for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:34:00 +0000 Original-Received: from 207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com ([207.172.223.249]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:34:00 +0000 Original-Received: from dave by 207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:34:00 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 40 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 207-172-223-249.c3-0.smr-ubr3.sbo-smr.ma.static.cable.rcn.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.91 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:PT2x1oa6IJAKGlqR2tJOZ4W8VP4= X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:68372 Archived-At: on Tue Mar 24 2009, Tassilo Horn wrote: > David Abrahams writes: > > Hi David, > >> Old articles that have since been deleted through other clients still >> show up in the summary (bad) but sometimes "turn black" (show up as >> deleted) when I try to read them (also bad). The latest problem is >> that I've added 'Message-ID to gnus-extra-headers, but `/-x >> Message-IDxxxxx' turns up nothing, even though I have a message >> containing xxxxx in its Message-ID header. I've had this sort of >> problem for years! > > Do you use the agent for you imap server? Yup. But even if I turn the agent off I still see this problem. > (^ in *Group* to enter the > server buffer, and look out for "agent" in the nnimap lines.) > > The agent doesn't play too well with backends that support article > movement / deletion, especially if you use it in parallel to other > clients. > > This problem (phantom articles, duplicates and such things) also bit me > with my agentized imap account whenever I've used the web interface. > Since then I don't use the agent for imap, but instead use a local > dovecot imap server that I sync with my imap accounts using offlineIMAP. > This setup has proven to be very nice. It's very quick since all mail > is local and all changes are propagated back and forth by offlineIMAP. I guess that's where I'm headed next. Every laptop becomes a server in the end... :( -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com