From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/59139 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Magnus Henoch Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Asynchronous hashcash.el Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 21:43:29 +0100 Message-ID: References: <871xexqkno.fsf@uwo.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1100465184 12649 80.91.229.6 (14 Nov 2004 20:46:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 20:46:24 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M7679@lists.math.uh.edu Sun Nov 14 21:46:06 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13] ident=mail) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CTRGA-0005iI-00 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 21:46:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1CTRDs-0003Lo-00; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 14:43:44 -0600 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1CTRDo-0003Lj-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 14:43:40 -0600 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CTRDm-0006D6-0P for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 14:43:38 -0600 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759EF3A0035 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 14:43:36 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CTRDj-0007vv-00 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 21:43:35 +0100 Original-Received: from h170n1fls23o1074.bredband.comhem.se ([213.67.239.170]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 21:43:35 +0100 Original-Received: from mange by h170n1fls23o1074.bredband.comhem.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 14 Nov 2004 21:43:35 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 27 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: h170n1fls23o1074.bredband.comhem.se User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:t7RCsJjw+nsLdiQvO3jr3OPSJQY= Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:59139 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:59139 Simon Josefsson writes: > Btw, I realize hashcash isn't used for news. For the gmane.org news > server it make sense to use it. gmane.org seem to insert a > 'Original-To' header. Should Gnus generate hashcash cookies to that > address? Original-To isn't always the right address, e.g. for a mail sent to a person and CCed to a mailing list. List-Post is probably the best header, though not all groups have it. For those groups, Gnus already sort of has that function, as after you have run gnus-mailing-list-insinuate it will post to the mailing list, bypassing Gmane. (or you can set `to-list' manually) I would be quite happy if this were combined with mailing list administrators changing posting policy from "subscribers only" to "subscribers and hashcash users". Time to patch Mailman, I guess, so the changes trickle down to the stable version with time.[1] Maybe Gmane could add a List-Post header for those lists that don't already have it. Magnus [1] Googling for this yielded positive and negative opinions: http://www.freelists.org/archives/hashcash/03-2004/msg00094.html http://freedom.gmsociety.org/pipermail/aswan/2001-January/000033.html