From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/57451 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jonas Steverud Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: gnus-list-identifiers not stripped in threads started with Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 10:23:08 +0200 Organization: The Deciples of Albericht Nibelungen Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1084868644 21081 80.91.224.253 (18 May 2004 08:24:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 08:24:04 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M5991@lists.math.uh.edu Tue May 18 10:23:56 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BPztD-0001MU-00 for ; Tue, 18 May 2004 10:23:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BPzse-0008LY-00; Tue, 18 May 2004 03:23:20 -0500 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1BPzsV-0008LQ-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 18 May 2004 03:23:11 -0500 Original-Received: from justine.libertine.org ([66.139.78.221] ident=postfix) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BPzsT-0002Ai-Ju for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 18 May 2004 03:23:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mxfep02.bredband.com (mxfep02.bredband.com [195.54.107.73]) by justine.libertine.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491163A0210 for ; Tue, 18 May 2004 03:23:06 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from c-a35372d5.036-4-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se.bredband.net ([213.114.83.218] [213.114.83.218]) by mxfep02.bredband.com with ESMTP id <20040518082304.DVSI14728.mxfep02.bredband.com@c-a35372d5.036-4-67626721.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se.bredband.net> for ; Tue, 18 May 2004 10:23:04 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Mail-Copies-To: never In-Reply-To: (Maciej Matysiak's message of "Tue, 18 May 2004 02:10:40 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3 (darwin) Precedence: bulk Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57451 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:57451 Maciej Matysiak writes: [...] > i've just noticed that the bad effect is only in the summary, the subject > is stripped in the message buffer. > > i'm using cvs few minutes old, but the bug has been in cvs gnus for a whi= le > alrady. I've seen this as well and I agree, it is most annoying. I have set nnmail-list-identifiers and gnus-list-identifiers. Since the former is applied before any decoding of QP etc. it isn't very useful so I started to do some research. I could confirm that nnmail-list-identifiers is applied before any decoding of QP etc. but that gnus-summary-remove-list-identifiers (and so is nnmail-remove-list-identifiers) is hard-coded to use Re: instead of using a variable similar to message-subject-re-regexp=B9. I've found that if the regexps in the aforementioned functions does not match, the removal is broken. I suggestion is to check the offending emails literally (C-u g in the summary) and see what the regexp acctually is applied to. I wouldn't be surprised if the subject contains a Re: that isn't matched by the (hardcoded) regexp. Two IMHOs: 1. Why have both nnmail-list-identifiers *and* gnus-list-identifiers? Isn't this redundant? If the reason is that one shall have the option to remove it in mails but not elsewhere I don't agree: That can be controlled by group parameters. Besides, the nnmail-list-identifiers is not very useful considering it is applied *before* QP-decoding. 2. nnmail-list-identifiers should be applied after QP decoding. I would prefer the removal of nnmail-list-identifiers of the two above. ------- =B9 IMHO the default for this should be set to include SV and AW and any other known idiocy. --=20 ( http://hem.bredband.net/steverud/ ! Wei Wu Wei ) ( Meaning of U2 Lyrics, Roleplaying ! To Do Without Do )